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I like kotlin for all the reasons you said above. Try it

ajmurmann 9y ago
Yeah, between Kotlin and Rust we now have two very well designed languages that should fill pretty much every need. To me Python, Ruby and Java are pretty much legacy at this point.
- swah 9y ago
  http://www.grpc.io/docs/ http://www.grpc.io/docs/ OTOH you always have an easier time using a language with more support... so most of the times I'd say those legacy languages are the best option...
  - ajmurmann 9y ago
    That is certainly true. In fact that's partially the reason why I'm still using Ruby for some of my projects. Kotlin though has the benefit of being able to use all the Java ecosystem.
- oblio 9y ago
  Libraries, platform support/exclusivity, fast start-up, etc. The perfect language(s) hasn't(haven't) been invented yet.
  - ajmurmann 9y ago
    I didn't say "perfect" I said "very well designed". I don't think perfect exists. My statement also was strictly about the languages themselves. Languages pretty much never fully go away because there is always some amazingly well done library that will be needed for virtually ever. Just look at all the math stuff done in Fortran. Sorry, I should have been clearer.
  - kiriakasis 9y ago
    Rust has those i believe :)
- joshuamorton 9y ago
  I don't believe either of those can compete with python+numpy (or matlab if you're masochistic) for numerical computation (and everything that comes with it).
  - jorgemf 9y ago
    This is one of the reasons I use python instead of kotlin. But I hope libraries will catch up at some point.
- BuckRogers 9y ago
  That. Except for me Kotlin is TypeScript. I totally see the appeal of Kotlin. For me, my day to day job is JS and TypeScript makes that a top shelf experience. It seems like the one constant in my work has always been JS and SQL for almost everything I've ever touched. Though in my dichotomy, I never actually need or use Rust. I would like to find an excuse to write a library in Rust.
  - jorgemf 9y ago
    I don't think kotlin is TypeScript. Kotlin adds to java some nice things like coroutines, it is not only null safetly, functional programming and some sintax sugar. And also compiles to javascript and in the future to native.
    - BuckRogers 9y ago
      ? "I don't think kotlin is TypeScript." ? I don't either. What are you talking about?
jamesfe 9y ago
Cool! I'll check it out.

Yeah, between Kotlin and Rust we now have two very well designed languages that should fill pretty much every need. To me Python, Ruby and Java are pretty much legacy at this point.

swah 9y ago
http://www.grpc.io/docs/ http://www.grpc.io/docs/ OTOH you always have an easier time using a language with more support... so most of the times I'd say those legacy languages are the best option...
- ajmurmann 9y ago
  That is certainly true. In fact that's partially the reason why I'm still using Ruby for some of my projects. Kotlin though has the benefit of being able to use all the Java ecosystem.
oblio 9y ago
Libraries, platform support/exclusivity, fast start-up, etc. The perfect language(s) hasn't(haven't) been invented yet.
- ajmurmann 9y ago
  I didn't say "perfect" I said "very well designed". I don't think perfect exists. My statement also was strictly about the languages themselves. Languages pretty much never fully go away because there is always some amazingly well done library that will be needed for virtually ever. Just look at all the math stuff done in Fortran. Sorry, I should have been clearer.
- kiriakasis 9y ago
  Rust has those i believe :)
joshuamorton 9y ago
I don't believe either of those can compete with python+numpy (or matlab if you're masochistic) for numerical computation (and everything that comes with it).
- jorgemf 9y ago
  This is one of the reasons I use python instead of kotlin. But I hope libraries will catch up at some point.
BuckRogers 9y ago
That. Except for me Kotlin is TypeScript. I totally see the appeal of Kotlin. For me, my day to day job is JS and TypeScript makes that a top shelf experience. It seems like the one constant in my work has always been JS and SQL for almost everything I've ever touched. Though in my dichotomy, I never actually need or use Rust. I would like to find an excuse to write a library in Rust.
- jorgemf 9y ago
  I don't think kotlin is TypeScript. Kotlin adds to java some nice things like coroutines, it is not only null safetly, functional programming and some sintax sugar. And also compiles to javascript and in the future to native.
  - BuckRogers 9y ago
    ? "I don't think kotlin is TypeScript." ? I don't either. What are you talking about?

jamesfe 9y ago

Cool! I'll check it out.