4 ms·

Why did the employee need to fill out any paperwork to be taken off of the performance plan? Shouldn't that happen at the direction of their manager? Feels a li

Why did the employee need to fill out any paperwork to be taken off of the performance plan? Shouldn't that happen at the direction of their manager? Feels a little bit like a deus ex machina.

mattnewton 9y ago
I agree, but I have also learned never to underestimate the bureaucracy of a big co's paperwork.
Retric 9y ago
Normally there is some form of acknowledgement which might just be a check box, but it sounds like the HR process was setup so that step could not be skipped.
LanceH 9y ago
Have you not worked at a big company? This is 100% normal for everything. For the required training I do because my work touches health care: The company has a record of what training I need. It sends me a list of courses. I then have to register for those courses -- within the same company. They can't register me for it on their own. I take the course, get my passing grade and now the course and my training record know that I have a passing grade for the course. So naturally I have to print that out, upload it to another site and mark it complete. Someone in India (literally) checks this. Not done yet, I fill out a paper copy by hand with course numbers and dates and sign it. Upload that and turn in physical copies to my management. If I want credit on the number of hours training I have for the year, I need to update that manually as well. Expect these forms to be kicked back multiple times on the way because the date is in the wrong format or some other reason. Also expect to take multiple forms of the same training within the same training year because it has been repackaged (not new courses, regrouped same courses).
- djb_hackernews 9y ago
  I currently work for a large corporation. This is not 100% normal for everything. This wasn't a training, this was the fundamental employment status of the employee. I don't need to sign any paperwork to accept a raise or promotion, etc. I've never been put on a PP but I'm guessing my company wouldn't require the employee to handle any paperwork if they came off of it either. Luckily our training system sounds more streamlined than yours. Different strokes for different companies I guess.
- chris_wot 9y ago
  Tell them you don't any training on Lean Six Sigma, then ask to apply it to the training process. Never use it for anything else. Ta da!
JustSomeNobody 9y ago
If they change your status without you knowing or acknowledging, that opens up all kinds of legal issues.

Why did the employee need to fill out any paperwork to be taken off of the performance plan? Shouldn't that happen at the direction of their manager? Feels a little bit like a deus ex machina.

mattnewton 9y ago

I agree, but I have also learned never to underestimate the bureaucracy of a big co's paperwork.

Retric 9y ago

Normally there is some form of acknowledgement which might just be a check box, but it sounds like the HR process was setup so that step could not be skipped.

LanceH 9y ago

Have you not worked at a big company? This is 100% normal for everything. For the required training I do because my work touches health care: The company has a record of what training I need. It sends me a list of courses. I then have to register for those courses -- within the same company. They can't register me for it on their own. I take the course, get my passing grade and now the course and my training record know that I have a passing grade for the course. So naturally I have to print that out, upload it to another site and mark it complete. Someone in India (literally) checks this. Not done yet, I fill out a paper copy by hand with course numbers and dates and sign it. Upload that and turn in physical copies to my management. If I want credit on the number of hours training I have for the year, I need to update that manually as well. Expect these forms to be kicked back multiple times on the way because the date is in the wrong format or some other reason. Also expect to take multiple forms of the same training within the same training year because it has been repackaged (not new courses, regrouped same courses).

djb_hackernews 9y ago
I currently work for a large corporation. This is not 100% normal for everything. This wasn't a training, this was the fundamental employment status of the employee. I don't need to sign any paperwork to accept a raise or promotion, etc. I've never been put on a PP but I'm guessing my company wouldn't require the employee to handle any paperwork if they came off of it either. Luckily our training system sounds more streamlined than yours. Different strokes for different companies I guess.
chris_wot 9y ago
Tell them you don't any training on Lean Six Sigma, then ask to apply it to the training process. Never use it for anything else. Ta da!

JustSomeNobody 9y ago

If they change your status without you knowing or acknowledging, that opens up all kinds of legal issues.