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> Not sure what this exactly means, but the "universe is deterministic" is part of what mainstream science claims. It doesn't. Quantum physics is as mainstream
by matt4077 9y ago
> Not sure what this exactly means, but the "universe is deterministic" is part of what mainstream science claims.
It doesn't. Quantum physics is as mainstream as they come, and so is chaos theory.
But determinism doesn't actually have much to do with "free will". There are many known indeterminate stochastic processes, yet nobody would claim that they possess free will, i. e. radioactive decay.
- MacsHeadroom 9y agoQM and chaos theory are both fully deterministic, even though future prediction is impossible in practice in some cases. We only call them non-deterministic because we can't ever hope to determine outcomes ahead of time in practice- NOT to say that the outcome isn't ultimately from a natural flow of causality. In fact, ultimate causal determination is proven for both. Consider Broglie–Bohm. There is no true randomness. Not in math and certainly not in QM.
- matt4077 9y agoThat's not the current consensus in regards to QM.