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"It's amazing how unpleasant most media sites are to read." I cannot stop showing this to people: https://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2017/05/26/us/turkey-pro

by rsync 9y ago

"It's amazing how unpleasant most media sites are to read." I cannot stop showing this to people: https://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2017/05/26/us/turkey-protesters-attack-video-analysis.html https://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2017/05/26/us/turkey-pro... That is amazing. The web has been perverted and prostituted and bent out of shape in every which way but this ... This is the promise fulfilled, 15 years later, of "web 2.0". This is what they were talking about and what we wanted but didn't know how to ask for.

jessaustin 9y ago
I, for one, am glad they could do such phenomenal work in the service of further alienating the USA public from yet another Near Eastern nation. What a waste it would have been to put in this sort of effort on something unimportant like the economy or the environment!
- killedbydeath 9y ago
  Come on, is respecting US laws on US soil really that much to ask without the fear of alienating Turkey? There need to be boundaries, even if you care very much about diplomacy.
- whyenot 9y ago
  Likewise, I wish you would have found something more deserving instead of criticizing a solid piece of journalism. Look at the design of the article, the integration of video and text, the restrained use of ads... Even if you don't appreciate the content, stylistically, the are some very nice things about this article.
- rdiddly 9y ago
  It is about the environment. When you get beat up on your own soil by someone who doesn't even live here, that's not a good environment. Nor can the economy really function well if the environment is chaotic & lawless like this incident.
Animats 9y ago
Yes. That's very impressive. The NYT ends the article with "If you can identify anybody in the video or have other information regarding the events, you can anonymously submit information through our tips line at nytimes.com/tips."
skewart 9y ago
That's awesome! I wish there was more content like that out there. I find I've become more focused on following individual writers/journalists/bloggers these days and less attached to publisher brands. And a lot of signs point to the future of publishing being much more fragmented and focused on individual journalists. But when the NYT does stuff like that it shows how powerful and effective a big publishing organization can be. Maybe new ways for journalists to pool resources and collaborate will emerge?
- nebabyte 9y ago
  It usually comes down to the hard work of a few key people either way. The publisher just gives them and the grunt-workers a steady paycheck.
  - jrimbault 9y ago
    The steady paycheck is what allows some (maybe even many) journalists to do amazing investigative reporting. I have a hard time imagining another way to have in-depth, months to years long ago investigations.
bbctol 9y ago
The New York Times visualizations and interactive analyses are consistently high quality. Playing your own psychological tricks on Uber drivers in https://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2017/04/02/technology/uber-drivers-psychological-tricks.html https://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2017/04/02/technology/ub... was very interesting.

by rsync 9y ago

jessaustin 9y ago

I, for one, am glad they could do such phenomenal work in the service of further alienating the USA public from yet another Near Eastern nation. What a waste it would have been to put in this sort of effort on something unimportant like the economy or the environment!

killedbydeath 9y ago
Come on, is respecting US laws on US soil really that much to ask without the fear of alienating Turkey? There need to be boundaries, even if you care very much about diplomacy.
whyenot 9y ago
Likewise, I wish you would have found something more deserving instead of criticizing a solid piece of journalism. Look at the design of the article, the integration of video and text, the restrained use of ads... Even if you don't appreciate the content, stylistically, the are some very nice things about this article.
rdiddly 9y ago
It is about the environment. When you get beat up on your own soil by someone who doesn't even live here, that's not a good environment. Nor can the economy really function well if the environment is chaotic & lawless like this incident.

Animats 9y ago

Yes. That's very impressive. The NYT ends the article with "If you can identify anybody in the video or have other information regarding the events, you can anonymously submit information through our tips line at nytimes.com/tips."

skewart 9y ago

That's awesome! I wish there was more content like that out there. I find I've become more focused on following individual writers/journalists/bloggers these days and less attached to publisher brands. And a lot of signs point to the future of publishing being much more fragmented and focused on individual journalists. But when the NYT does stuff like that it shows how powerful and effective a big publishing organization can be. Maybe new ways for journalists to pool resources and collaborate will emerge?

nebabyte 9y ago
It usually comes down to the hard work of a few key people either way. The publisher just gives them and the grunt-workers a steady paycheck.
- jrimbault 9y ago
  The steady paycheck is what allows some (maybe even many) journalists to do amazing investigative reporting. I have a hard time imagining another way to have in-depth, months to years long ago investigations.

bbctol 9y ago

The New York Times visualizations and interactive analyses are consistently high quality. Playing your own psychological tricks on Uber drivers in https://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2017/04/02/technology/uber-drivers-psychological-tricks.html https://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2017/04/02/technology/ub... was very interesting.