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I wonder what the better source of information is: 1. anecdotes from exasperated civil servants who were not party to the state level discussions, or 2. decla
by elefanten 9y ago
I wonder what the better source of information is:
1. anecdotes from exasperated civil servants who were not party to the state level discussions,
or 2. declassified documents about the discussions.
- kalleboo 9y agoDo the documents refute his anecdotes though? The documents are only from one side - we don't know what the Chinese side was thinking (and surely they wouldn't tell the British something like that).
- Hasknewbie 9y agoYes they do refute it: while the talks were still secret Chinese officials were mentioning that "China will formally announce their decision to recover HK", i.e. the UK had 2 years to make the handover public, or China would step up, no officious arrangements accepted. Additionally, TFA notes that China had HK and Macau removed from the "non sovereign territories" UN list years earlier, so that both couldn't aspire to independence. Considering that HK was lost following the Opium Wars and the first of the "unequal treaties", something that was considered a deeply humiliating episode in China's history, it's not surprising that their government wanted to "right that wrong". Thatcher was simply delusional about her initial plans ("I really don't understand why they don't want to renew with us this thing they call Unequal Treaty?")