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That's a really cool theory, but you're also stirring up the hornets' nest by bringing it up anywhere in tech environment, which got really feministic recently.
by d33 9y ago
That's a really cool theory, but you're also stirring up the hornets' nest by bringing it up anywhere in tech environment, which got really feministic recently. BTW, one thing doesn't seem to stick: they don't label themselves as less powerful - in fact, their misandric agenda keeps trying to repeat the opposite.
I personally believe that the "mysterious creature" concept stems from women being more emotional and thus more difficult to analyse - we seem to have more scientific grounds for logic, whereas we still hadn't even agreed what an emotion is.
- nonconvergent 9y ago| "Women being more emotional" You just cited the same argument to justify why the argument isn't true.
- anon808 9y ago'I personally believe that the "mysterious creature" concept stems from women being more emotional' Why do you think women (as a gender) are more emotional?
- erikpukinskis 9y agoYeah, I think that's a trope that needs unpacking to be credible. If anything, I would say women tend to be more inclined to sharing and talking about their emotions. Men tend to try to hide them, or fight them. Which often pushes us down a progression of more extreme emotions, rather than gently easing ourselves back to center. Fighting/denying our emotions also causes us to try to rationalize perceptions driven by our emotions, by ascribing them to the world around us. Because that's a false attribution, it makes it harder for our teams to get an accurate picture of the world outside our emotions.
- reitanqild 9y agoExperience. I don’t think it would be acceptable for me (or other men) to say or do some things women can do. And I'm fine with it.
- DonHopkins 9y agoHe can't prove it logically, but he feels very strongly that it must be true.
- gkya 9y agoI really get a cringe when people act as if their ideals are reality when they are just ideals in their heads. Good morning: a great majority of the world lives traditional lifestyles in patriarchal societies, and even in the "best" parts the gender disparity in responsibilities and rights continues, and the stereotypes are true to some extent for most of them too. I dislike feminism per se as I see it to be just another sexism and not a step towards gender equality, as it tends to cause sexual etichette becoming more visual and everything having gender associations, and comes with detrimental practices like positive discrimination and extension of gender equality into non gender-related parts of life. And in tech these are so much amplified.
- braveo 9y agoFor the same reason the rest of the majority of the population believes it; It's generally true.
- RodericDay 9y agoI hate dealing in stereotypes, but even if we stick to stereotypes, the idea that men are "less emotional" than women is hilarious. Two stereotypical emotional memes for men: - men think with their libido, and will throw away their life for a shag - men have fragile egos, and will pick up a fight over a perceived injury to their honor The sexist stereotype "women are emotional" just doesn't work.
- reitanqild 9y agoTwo stereotypical emotional memes for men: Everyone worth discussing with knows it is an simplification. Same as "women and feelings". I'd guess however that pretending there is absolutely no truth to it whatsoever might leave one with a disadvantage when trying to understand what goes on.
- tacomonstrous 9y agoThe lack of self-awareness in this comment is simply hilarious.
- jansho 9y agoOkay let's play this game. Let's accept that women are indeed more emotional creatures. (So tempted to get all sarky with "wide-eyed" and "fragile" but onwards.) Now what's wrong with being emotional? Even in environments such as tech, this is a necessity. Ultimately people use tech, so damn right we need to be emotional about it. 'Emotional fits' though uncomfortable to watch don't actually occur often, but when it does, it is usually grounded in a very good reason, which may not be made clear yet. So either way, actually, it's still way better for us to embrace differences and listen to each other for a richer working environment and output. Diversity is only a barrier when you choose to look at it that way.
- dang 9y agoPlease don't take HN threads into flamewars. It harms the community and leads nowhere new.