> As for the JVM and Java, this seems like a guilty admission that the CLR and C# ate their lunch a decade ago The reason why this never happened was that Java

> As for the JVM and Java, this seems like a guilty admission that the CLR and C# ate their lunch a decade ago The reason why this never happened was that Java was good enough. A quick look at TIOBE shows C# stuck at around 3% while java continues to reign supreme. I do think C# is a better language in many ways, but not, it seems, in any ways that really matter for purposes of language adoption. Which is a shame, since I enjoy writing code in C# more than in java, but I don't have much opportunity to do it, and I've never been in a situation in which C# was the language and it wasn't an MS-only solution.