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Treat everything as PII and we are good. The constitution has an amendment to protect our rights. That seems important. I know of no guaranteed right of corp

Treat everything as PII and we are good. The constitution has an amendment to protect our rights. That seems important. I know of no guaranteed right of corporations to infringe on our privacy and to provide access our data. Forty years ago we didn't have this issue because there wasn't so much data for them to try to get their grubby greedy hands on. They don't need our data (ANY OF IT)!

jtuente 9y ago
The US constitution forbids the US government from acting in certain ways, it in no way impedes upon private organizations. Tort law and the like is what holds private organizations accountable. i.e. The fourth amendment does not protect you from a private entity or individual; laws covering trespassing, theft, breaking and entering do. Please don't drag the constitution into an argument it does not have a place in.
- anigbrowl 9y ago
  I'd like to argue (not for the first time either) that the Constitution is seriously deficient in its failure to enshrine privacy as a personal right. Great as it has been for the last couple of centuries, I think it's obsolete and should be replaced rather than merely amended.
  - gozur88 9y ago
    There's no reason that can't be done as an amendment.
    - anigbrowl 9y ago
      It's not the only thing I'd like to change. Besides which, there is already a movement in progress to bring about another article V convention and I'm guessing the goal of the proponents is drastic rather than minimal alteration. Here's a recent summary article on developments: https://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/were-surprisingly-close-to-a-new-constitutional-convention-bad-idea/2017/04/06/f6d5b76a-197d-11e7-855e-4824bbb5d748_story.html https://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/were-surprisingly-cl...
      - gozur88 9y ago
        The problem is everyone wants different drastic changes.
        anigbrowl 9y ago
        Obviously. This is going to lead to a bitter conflict in the not-too-distant future, unfortunately.
- dsmithatx 9y ago
  I didn't say the constitution protects me from private assholes. My point was privacy was important to our founders and remains important today. Had our founders known corporations would be a thing and grow as powerful as the government, I would argue they would be included. We need laws to protect us from them. Much more and better laws. The fact that the constitution does protect us from gov. is a good argument that our gov. should be active in protecting us from corps. Anyway that is my conjecture.

jtuente 9y ago

The US constitution forbids the US government from acting in certain ways, it in no way impedes upon private organizations. Tort law and the like is what holds private organizations accountable. i.e. The fourth amendment does not protect you from a private entity or individual; laws covering trespassing, theft, breaking and entering do. Please don't drag the constitution into an argument it does not have a place in.

anigbrowl 9y ago
I'd like to argue (not for the first time either) that the Constitution is seriously deficient in its failure to enshrine privacy as a personal right. Great as it has been for the last couple of centuries, I think it's obsolete and should be replaced rather than merely amended.
- gozur88 9y ago
  There's no reason that can't be done as an amendment.
  - anigbrowl 9y ago
    It's not the only thing I'd like to change. Besides which, there is already a movement in progress to bring about another article V convention and I'm guessing the goal of the proponents is drastic rather than minimal alteration. Here's a recent summary article on developments: https://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/were-surprisingly-close-to-a-new-constitutional-convention-bad-idea/2017/04/06/f6d5b76a-197d-11e7-855e-4824bbb5d748_story.html https://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/were-surprisingly-cl...
    - gozur88 9y ago
      The problem is everyone wants different drastic changes.
      - anigbrowl 9y ago
        Obviously. This is going to lead to a bitter conflict in the not-too-distant future, unfortunately.
dsmithatx 9y ago
I didn't say the constitution protects me from private assholes. My point was privacy was important to our founders and remains important today. Had our founders known corporations would be a thing and grow as powerful as the government, I would argue they would be included. We need laws to protect us from them. Much more and better laws. The fact that the constitution does protect us from gov. is a good argument that our gov. should be active in protecting us from corps. Anyway that is my conjecture.