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> Birthday is an included item. That's definitely private as it is often used to confirm identity. mylife.com publicly posts birthdays so apparently not

unityByFreedom 9y ago
No kidding, but I don't want that information out there, and I imagine most people don't. Just because some skeezy website shares all my personal information does not make it public information. It's private to me and I'd rather it remain undistributed, where possible. Overall point being, this US voter data leak is bad. That appears to have released information on all of us that we consider private.
- __david__ 9y ago
  > Just because some skeezy website shares all my personal information does not make it public information. I kinda think it does mean exactly that. Just because you don't want something to be public doesn't mean that it isn't public.
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  - unityByFreedom 9y ago
    So do you consider your daily schedule, gps locations of where you go, to be public information? Nothing about the definition of public or private restrict either to being protected by the government. I can consider some information private without it being protected in the legal sense. That said, I expect that any government entity that released my birthday would be held responsible for a data leak.
    - __david__ 9y ago
      > So do you consider your daily schedule, gps locations of where you go, to be public information? Nope. What's your point?
      - unityByFreedom 9y ago
        Your words, > "Just because you don't want something to be public doesn't mean that it isn't public." In the future, your location data could be tracked, shared/hacked, analyzed to produce more information, and breached just like this RNC dataset. My point is, something private doesn't become public when a criminal exposes it. It's still private to you.
        __david__ 9y ago
        What? It isn't public because it isn't public. Not because I don't want it to be public. If in the future it is no longer public, then I won't consider it private. I may not be happy about it, but that doesn't change the fact that it is public at that point.
        unityByFreedom 9y ago
        If a criminal releases 100,000 credit card numbers, we don't all of the sudden consider credit card numbers to be public. We try to limit the spread of the leak, if possible, and shore up whatever security lapse occurred. Nowhere in that scenario to we begin to consider credit card numbers public. So it is with birthdays. There isn't any government organization who will distribute that information.
        __david__ 9y ago
        You most certainly do consider stolen credit cards public! You don't just limit the information and hope for the best—you attempt to inform everyone affected of the breach and try to get everyone to change their card number (because it's public at this point).
        unityByFreedom 9y ago
        I think we're using public/private in different ways. You're referring to the data's present and future classification. I'm pointing to the data's past classification because that determines whether the collection of data was theft or not. If all credit card numbers were stolen and distributed, we would still have considered them private before that. The same is true for these birthdays. They were private, then stolen and made public. That they are now public doesn't retroactively make the theft okay. Theft is theft. The lesson here is to tighten security, increase security education and awareness, and increase investigation into the most egregious of these crimes so that violators can be brought to justice.

unityByFreedom 9y ago

No kidding, but I don't want that information out there, and I imagine most people don't. Just because some skeezy website shares all my personal information does not make it public information. It's private to me and I'd rather it remain undistributed, where possible. Overall point being, this US voter data leak is bad. That appears to have released information on all of us that we consider private.

__david__ 9y ago
> Just because some skeezy website shares all my personal information does not make it public information. I kinda think it does mean exactly that. Just because you don't want something to be public doesn't mean that it isn't public.
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- unityByFreedom 9y ago
  So do you consider your daily schedule, gps locations of where you go, to be public information? Nothing about the definition of public or private restrict either to being protected by the government. I can consider some information private without it being protected in the legal sense. That said, I expect that any government entity that released my birthday would be held responsible for a data leak.
  - __david__ 9y ago
    > So do you consider your daily schedule, gps locations of where you go, to be public information? Nope. What's your point?
    - unityByFreedom 9y ago
      Your words, > "Just because you don't want something to be public doesn't mean that it isn't public." In the future, your location data could be tracked, shared/hacked, analyzed to produce more information, and breached just like this RNC dataset. My point is, something private doesn't become public when a criminal exposes it. It's still private to you.
      - __david__ 9y ago
        What? It isn't public because it isn't public. Not because I don't want it to be public. If in the future it is no longer public, then I won't consider it private. I may not be happy about it, but that doesn't change the fact that it is public at that point.
        unityByFreedom 9y ago
        If a criminal releases 100,000 credit card numbers, we don't all of the sudden consider credit card numbers to be public. We try to limit the spread of the leak, if possible, and shore up whatever security lapse occurred. Nowhere in that scenario to we begin to consider credit card numbers public. So it is with birthdays. There isn't any government organization who will distribute that information.
        __david__ 9y ago
        You most certainly do consider stolen credit cards public! You don't just limit the information and hope for the best—you attempt to inform everyone affected of the breach and try to get everyone to change their card number (because it's public at this point).
        unityByFreedom 9y ago
        I think we're using public/private in different ways. You're referring to the data's present and future classification. I'm pointing to the data's past classification because that determines whether the collection of data was theft or not. If all credit card numbers were stolen and distributed, we would still have considered them private before that. The same is true for these birthdays. They were private, then stolen and made public. That they are now public doesn't retroactively make the theft okay. Theft is theft. The lesson here is to tighten security, increase security education and awareness, and increase investigation into the most egregious of these crimes so that violators can be brought to justice.