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My advice is contrary to what most people here are saying: avoid both the headhunter firm, and companies that utilize headhunter firms. To begin, there's a _r
by indiejade 19y ago
My advice is contrary to what most people here are saying: avoid both the headhunter firm, and companies that utilize headhunter firms.
To begin, there's a _reason_ they're "all over you." I know and have been there, too, sometimes getting several calls in one day from various agencies. Any phone call that begins with "I'm so and so with such and such IT staffing. I have a client that. . ." is a no-no in my book. Headhunters don't care how much money you make, only how much you can make them.
They tend to like to leech the maximum amounts possible both from you and from the company you are sent to work for "for them." The really pathetic thing is most headhunters/recruiters don't even know what they're talking about tech-wise. Sure, they may have some smooth telephone skills, but that's about it. The most laughable one called me up to ask if I knew what RHEL stood for.
The constant barrage of calls and such from them should tell you: (a) that there are more leeches like them than there are people like you and (b) that your time and talent are potentially valuable to somebody somewhere, but that various obstacles exist in your line of communication.
Maybe I'm just a stickler for efficiencies, but seriously. Putting yourself behind a "brick wall" (IT staffing/headhunter) even if the company you want to work for is indeed on the other side of that brick wall can be really frustrating. It's especially frustrating when you have to re-arrange that brick wall every time, just to get anything done.
One more thing to note: The fact that this "startup" is already utilizing a headhunter firm would worry me if I were you. Usually companies don't tend to need to pawn off hiring duties until they're unable to handle hiring on their own: this can be an early warning sign.
I don't know if I can speak for the group, but I think most of us here on HN value our independence and as someone earlier mentioned "being stuck" anywhere just doesn't factor into the equation.
P.S. I'm sorry, but it's not a "valuable service" when it's something that anybody can easily do on their own. MBA Rule #1: managers should not ask others to do something they can do themselves; this includes searching for, seeking out and talking to potential employees _directly_.
- byrneseyeview 19y ago"Headhunters don't care how much money you make, only how much you can make them." Mhm. And grocery stores don't care about whether you go hungry, just whether or not you give them money. And landlords don't care about whether you have a home, just ... I'm a recruiter. I avoid lying about jobs or the candidates I submit for them because my ability to do business depends on being someone both sides want to hear from. If I send half a dozen people to a company, and they all complain about how the job isn't what they expected, they lose the hour of interview time and I lose a client. Why would I do that?
- allenbrunson 19y agowhy would you do that? well, incompetence springs to mind. (i'm not talking about you specifically, but about why recruiters screw up sometimes.) lord knows i've talked to my fair share of incompetent recruiters. they often don't speak english very well and they seem intent on blowing through the highest number of candidates in the shortest possible time. if it starts to look like you might be a match, god help you, because the recruiter wants to ram you down the throat of the employer as soon as possible, before some other recruiter gets somebody in there. i always find that part particularly galling. if i'm going to switch jobs, it will be a major upheaval in my life. it may involve picking up and moving across the country. yet these low-rent recruiters expect me to hurry through the process as fast as possible, so they don't lose the commission.