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"Do not use the Internet. Do not use phones. Do not use bank accounts. Do not travel by plane. Do not enter public spaces. Do not show your face. Otherwise you

"Do not use the Internet. Do not use phones. Do not use bank accounts. Do not travel by plane. Do not enter public spaces. Do not show your face. Otherwise you accept our Terms of Service. Thank you for trusting us." (C) QuantumRoar, https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=12958035 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=12958035

gfredtech 9y ago
Exactly, the inherent problem is the creation of shadow profiles of non Facebook users. The most annoying part is the fact that they can make your friends snitch on you, just in case you're not using your real name
- Tharkun 9y ago
  And they'll steal your phone number from your friends' phones and add it your account without your knowledge. Every once in a while I log in to FB and it will ask me if I want to share my phone number with them, with my number conveniently pre-entered in the input field. I never gave them my number.
tyrw 9y ago
Still use all those things to your heart's content; just don't create a Facebook account...
- dandelion_lover 9y ago
  When 99% of your friends use Facebook, it becomes very hard to avoid it [0]. If you want to advertise your new book among them, what would you do, for example? [0] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Network_effect https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Network_effect
  - Karunamon 9y ago
    Through one of the many other sites those friends probably use. Facebook probably isn't the only thing on the internet you and your circle of friends have in common.
    - Santosh83 9y ago
      Yes, but the other sites/services they use are also all pretty much similar walled gardens. It's becoming rarer and rarer these days for ordinary web users to have their own domain and site, or meet upon a completely unrestricted communications medium, like the Usenet of old.
  - Freak_NL 9y ago
    Send them an email? Call them? Send them a postcard? Send a text message?
- throwanem 9y ago
  You don't need to! Facebook will create one for you. It's called a "shadow profile", and as far as I'm aware, there is no way to opt out, prevent it occurring, or even discover what information about you - true or otherwise - is retained under this rubric.
  - rwmj 9y ago
    Actually they are likely to be illegal in the EU (http://www.europe-v-facebook.org/Compalint_02_Shadow_Profiles.pdf http://www.europe-v-facebook.org/Compalint_02_Shadow_Profile...), and you can request your profile using ordinary EU data protection laws.

gfredtech 9y ago

Exactly, the inherent problem is the creation of shadow profiles of non Facebook users. The most annoying part is the fact that they can make your friends snitch on you, just in case you're not using your real name

Tharkun 9y ago
And they'll steal your phone number from your friends' phones and add it your account without your knowledge. Every once in a while I log in to FB and it will ask me if I want to share my phone number with them, with my number conveniently pre-entered in the input field. I never gave them my number.

tyrw 9y ago

Still use all those things to your heart's content; just don't create a Facebook account...

dandelion_lover 9y ago
When 99% of your friends use Facebook, it becomes very hard to avoid it [0]. If you want to advertise your new book among them, what would you do, for example? [0] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Network_effect https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Network_effect
- Karunamon 9y ago
  Through one of the many other sites those friends probably use. Facebook probably isn't the only thing on the internet you and your circle of friends have in common.
  - Santosh83 9y ago
    Yes, but the other sites/services they use are also all pretty much similar walled gardens. It's becoming rarer and rarer these days for ordinary web users to have their own domain and site, or meet upon a completely unrestricted communications medium, like the Usenet of old.
- Freak_NL 9y ago
  Send them an email? Call them? Send them a postcard? Send a text message?
throwanem 9y ago
You don't need to! Facebook will create one for you. It's called a "shadow profile", and as far as I'm aware, there is no way to opt out, prevent it occurring, or even discover what information about you - true or otherwise - is retained under this rubric.
- rwmj 9y ago
  Actually they are likely to be illegal in the EU (http://www.europe-v-facebook.org/Compalint_02_Shadow_Profiles.pdf http://www.europe-v-facebook.org/Compalint_02_Shadow_Profile...), and you can request your profile using ordinary EU data protection laws.