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Vue templates are checked at compile time with the default runtime-only distribution, and the DSL it uses is arguably more checkable than JSX.

by yunyu 9y ago

seanwilson 9y ago
Sure, I'm just saying I don't understand how people that like dynamic typing can't see the productivity value in being told e.g. a variable isn't defined or a function call is missing arguments at compile time.
- julianmarq 9y ago
  You don't understand? Just read the thousands, probably millions, of explanations on that and other advantages and disadvantages of both dynamic and static languages in the thousands, probably millions, of discussions that have been about it for the past sixty years. What? You thought dynamic languages were a new fad? They have existed as long as computer science has, exactly like static languages. For what it's worth, the "productivity value" is demonstrably minimal if we're talking about good coders. And it's not like bad coders wouldn't run into roadblocks with static languages that don't exist in dynamic ones.
  - seanwilson 9y ago
    > You don't understand? Just read the thousands, probably millions, of explanations on that and other advantages and disadvantages of both dynamic and static languages in the thousands, probably millions, of discussions that have been about it for the past sixty years. I've worked a lot with static and dynamic types, read a lot about both and in my opinion static typing has clear and obvious advantages. > For what it's worth, the "productivity value" is demonstrably minimal if we're talking about good coders. And it's not like bad coders wouldn't run into roadblocks with static languages that don't exist in dynamic ones. Why is being a "good coder" a factor? Everyone makes mistakes and teams will always consist of a mixture of skill levels. On large code bases especially, getting compile time errors on basic problems like referring to non-existent variables and calling functions with wrongly type arguments is undeniable time saving in my opinion. Types also enable better refactoring automation and autocomplete. All of these are great for small projects and even better for big projects with lots of team members. What advantages does dynamic typing have that could outweigh those factors?
    - julianmarq 9y ago
      ... What was the point of this reply? It doesn't change or refute anything I said before. All this has been discussed millions of times, why would I engage in a discussion that has been happening for sixty years? You can read on advantages of dynamic languages everywhere, I was just pointing out that your point of view, and the point of view disagreeing with you, isn't anything close to new, making the attempt to start a flamewar in your first post, and trying to continue it here, all the more pointless. BTW: Good coders are factor because no amount of "you have to write 'string' or 'int' before the name of the variable" is going to save a bad coder from producing bad code.

Vue templates are checked at compile time with the default runtime-only distribution, and the DSL it uses is arguably more checkable than JSX.

by yunyu 9y ago

Vue templates are checked at compile time with the default runtime-only distribution, and the DSL it uses is arguably more checkable than JSX.

seanwilson 9y ago

Sure, I'm just saying I don't understand how people that like dynamic typing can't see the productivity value in being told e.g. a variable isn't defined or a function call is missing arguments at compile time.

julianmarq 9y ago
You don't understand? Just read the thousands, probably millions, of explanations on that and other advantages and disadvantages of both dynamic and static languages in the thousands, probably millions, of discussions that have been about it for the past sixty years. What? You thought dynamic languages were a new fad? They have existed as long as computer science has, exactly like static languages. For what it's worth, the "productivity value" is demonstrably minimal if we're talking about good coders. And it's not like bad coders wouldn't run into roadblocks with static languages that don't exist in dynamic ones.
- seanwilson 9y ago
  > You don't understand? Just read the thousands, probably millions, of explanations on that and other advantages and disadvantages of both dynamic and static languages in the thousands, probably millions, of discussions that have been about it for the past sixty years. I've worked a lot with static and dynamic types, read a lot about both and in my opinion static typing has clear and obvious advantages. > For what it's worth, the "productivity value" is demonstrably minimal if we're talking about good coders. And it's not like bad coders wouldn't run into roadblocks with static languages that don't exist in dynamic ones. Why is being a "good coder" a factor? Everyone makes mistakes and teams will always consist of a mixture of skill levels. On large code bases especially, getting compile time errors on basic problems like referring to non-existent variables and calling functions with wrongly type arguments is undeniable time saving in my opinion. Types also enable better refactoring automation and autocomplete. All of these are great for small projects and even better for big projects with lots of team members. What advantages does dynamic typing have that could outweigh those factors?
  - julianmarq 9y ago
    ... What was the point of this reply? It doesn't change or refute anything I said before. All this has been discussed millions of times, why would I engage in a discussion that has been happening for sixty years? You can read on advantages of dynamic languages everywhere, I was just pointing out that your point of view, and the point of view disagreeing with you, isn't anything close to new, making the attempt to start a flamewar in your first post, and trying to continue it here, all the more pointless. BTW: Good coders are factor because no amount of "you have to write 'string' or 'int' before the name of the variable" is going to save a bad coder from producing bad code.