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That, on the other hand, can encourage people to be careless in what they do. It's not their own equipment, they don't pay for it, so why worry about whether it
by inetknght 9y ago
That, on the other hand, can encourage people to be careless in what they do. It's not their own equipment, they don't pay for it, so why worry about whether it will break? Someone else will have to fix it.
- TeMPOraL 9y agoMaker/hacker spaces are communities, not companies - a well-run space will try to identify and filter out people with such a mindset. Not that these problems don't happen - but the whole benefit of such spaces is that they remove inefficiency in sharing stuff by assuming (and hopefully ensuring) that people will play nice.
- sooheon 9y agoCan you truly not imagine any policies or cultural/social engineering efforts to mitigate this? Humans are social animals, money is not the only thing that drives behavior, a culture of respect and social accountability goes a long way.
- skookumchuck 9y agoSure I can. It's called communism, where nobody owns everything and everybody shares. We all know how well that works.
- bromuro 9y agowe should give another chance to communism then, as those are wonderful ideas. we should learn from the past instead.
- skookumchuck 9y agoCommunism has had no lack of second chances.
- Jarwain 9y agoSome would say Communism lacks even a real first chance.
- skookumchuck 9y agoThere's no law against forming a commune in the US. Lots of groups have. Feel free to found your own. The problem with communes in the US, however, is you cannot make anyone join or stay. Accomplishing that requires a government, and has been tried lots of times, most recently in Venezuela. Given the historical results of government imposed communism, I'll pass on giving it another chance.
- ReverseCold 9y agoCommunism doesn't work, for one major reason... If everything is shared, who ensures how everything is shared? A: The government. What does any entity do when given absolute power? Hmm..... How to get totalitarian regimes 101
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- PeterisP 9y agoCommunism works reasonably well for commune sized societies where everyone knows each other well and have joined because of common interests. The issue with communism is that it (or, more accurately, the behavior/attitude needed for it) doesn't work at scale for larger societies that include strangers, but for smaller communes, including the people that would form a local maker space, those principles can work reasonably well.
- skookumchuck 9y agoCommunes, even smaller ones, don't work very well, and don't last.
- d3ad1ysp0rk 9y agoDo you have any data for this argument?
- skookumchuck 9y agoCan't find any long lasting ones. For example, hippie communes were common in the 60's and 70's. They've all vanished. The largest, San Francisco's 1967 "summer of love", only lasted a few months before collapsing. "those who gathered in Haight-Ashbury during 1967 allegedly rejected the conformist and materialist values of modern life; there was an emphasis on sharing and community. The Diggers established a Free Store, and a Free Clinic where medical treatment was provided." https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Summer_of_Love https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Summer_of_Love
- komodo 9y agoThis is place is most likely an exception to the rule but here is a single counter-example; a long-standing commune near my hometown: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Twin_Oaks_Community,_Virginia https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Twin_Oaks_Community,_Virginia
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- ams6110 9y agoOne option might be you don't pay for it, but you are banned from using it, or banned from the whole space for some period of time. Shunned, in other words.
- gwright 9y agoDeductibles. Set them per/person and increase them per incident.
- chongli 9y agoIt doesn't have to be all or nothing. Purchase insurance with a small but not insignificant deductible. Everybody who participates then puts down a deposit to cover the deductible. This way insurance is cheaper, if somebody breaks something it won't cost them too much money, but there's still a disincentive to break things so people will be careful.