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This is why healthcare should be decoupled from employment. Your work and your doctor should have nothing to do with each other. It distorts the market and limi

This is why healthcare should be decoupled from employment. Your work and your doctor should have nothing to do with each other. It distorts the market and limits innovation.

grecy 9y ago
It also makes people slaves
- eeZah7Ux 9y ago
  In countries with at-will employment an old person with a long-term life threatening condition (e.g. cancer) is pretty much company property.
  - nickpsecurity 9y ago
    There's quite a few in my company that are only there for the health insurance. It's cheap but their meds aren't.
  - raarts 9y ago
    >countries You'd be hard-pressed to find a country that as at-will employment besides the US.
    - kgwgk 9y ago
      In Switzerland the contract can be terminated at will by both the employer or the employee, with the same notice period (in general one, two or three months depending on how long the contract has been in force).
      - omnimus 9y ago
        But health care although not free is heavily regulated and mandatory. Switzerland does have social help. And there is much less poverty. And most of the people living in poverty are not poor homeless poor. They just dont qualify because the avrage income is so big. You cant compare it.
        kgwgk 9y ago
        > You'd be hard-pressed to find a country that as at-will employment besides the US. Where does that statement mention healthcare or any of the other things you talk about?
        corobo 9y ago
        Context. The subject is in the comment above the one you quoted. Conversations diverge and reconvene, it's how they work.
        kgwgk 9y ago
        Indeed. And my comment was in the context of someone saying that the US is the only country which has at-will employment. I was not comparing Switzerland to the US and I'm perfectly aware it's different in many aspects.
        omnimus 9y ago
        It was jump indeed. What i was trying to say is that the fact that Switzerland has similar you can be fired at will laws as US. The situation is not at all similar because of the other factors. I think you understand very well what i mean, so please lets not pick on words.

This is why healthcare should be decoupled from employment. Your work and your doctor should have nothing to do with each other. It distorts the market and limits innovation.

grecy 9y ago

It also makes people slaves

eeZah7Ux 9y ago
In countries with at-will employment an old person with a long-term life threatening condition (e.g. cancer) is pretty much company property.
- nickpsecurity 9y ago
  There's quite a few in my company that are only there for the health insurance. It's cheap but their meds aren't.
- raarts 9y ago
  >countries You'd be hard-pressed to find a country that as at-will employment besides the US.
  - kgwgk 9y ago
    In Switzerland the contract can be terminated at will by both the employer or the employee, with the same notice period (in general one, two or three months depending on how long the contract has been in force).
    - omnimus 9y ago
      But health care although not free is heavily regulated and mandatory. Switzerland does have social help. And there is much less poverty. And most of the people living in poverty are not poor homeless poor. They just dont qualify because the avrage income is so big. You cant compare it.
      - kgwgk 9y ago
        > You'd be hard-pressed to find a country that as at-will employment besides the US. Where does that statement mention healthcare or any of the other things you talk about?
        corobo 9y ago
        Context. The subject is in the comment above the one you quoted. Conversations diverge and reconvene, it's how they work.
        kgwgk 9y ago
        Indeed. And my comment was in the context of someone saying that the US is the only country which has at-will employment. I was not comparing Switzerland to the US and I'm perfectly aware it's different in many aspects.
        omnimus 9y ago
        It was jump indeed. What i was trying to say is that the fact that Switzerland has similar you can be fired at will laws as US. The situation is not at all similar because of the other factors. I think you understand very well what i mean, so please lets not pick on words.