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It's fascinating that, in your analogy, folks sharing progressive views on Twitter are the Nazis, considering that literal white supremacists tend to favor the

It's fascinating that, in your analogy, folks sharing progressive views on Twitter are the Nazis, considering that literal white supremacists tend to favor the other side.

pfarnsworth 9y ago
Nope, not what I said at all. I was talking about the trolls on Twitter. My point is that if you listen to the noise, rather than true signal, you might take the wrong path or get the wrong idea. In the case of the election, EVERYONE thought Clinton was going to win in a landslide, and the real signal was that it was a lot closer than that. But you never would have seen that from Twitter or the media. And that's the problem. If the Democrats were able to root out the true signal, they probably could have stopped Trump with better communication to Middle America, and stopped this debacle that we're currently in.
- obstinate 9y ago
  The "trolls" Fry is talking about here are progressives. At least, that is the signal I'm getting from the following: "It doesn’t matter whether they think they’re defending women, men, transgender people, Muslims, humanists . . .." He is essentially invoking the "snowflake" meme. And, in what might perhaps be called an instance of the Law of Snowflakes, it's in a context where he is whining about discourse not taking the tone he prefers. (If it seems weird that I'm ignoring 80% of the parent poster's content in his comment, it is because its initial iteration of that comment only contained the first two sentences.)
  - pfarnsworth 9y ago
    Trolls exist on both sides of the spectrum.
    - obstinate 9y ago
      That is no doubt true, although hardly relevant when one particular side is called out by various signals in the linked blog post, one of which I have already explained. If he were talking about conservative trolls, this would be a very different article.
  - inopinatus 9y ago
    You infer too much, and he isn't whining.
- ikeyany 9y ago
  The forces who are interested in creating noise are far more motivated, are far more numerous, are far dirtier, and are generally far more incentivized than that forces who are interested in creating the signal. There's the rub.
- devdas 9y ago
  Though that was mostly a racist vote for Trump.

It's fascinating that, in your analogy, folks sharing progressive views on Twitter are the Nazis, considering that literal white supremacists tend to favor the other side.

pfarnsworth 9y ago

Nope, not what I said at all. I was talking about the trolls on Twitter. My point is that if you listen to the noise, rather than true signal, you might take the wrong path or get the wrong idea. In the case of the election, EVERYONE thought Clinton was going to win in a landslide, and the real signal was that it was a lot closer than that. But you never would have seen that from Twitter or the media. And that's the problem. If the Democrats were able to root out the true signal, they probably could have stopped Trump with better communication to Middle America, and stopped this debacle that we're currently in.

obstinate 9y ago
The "trolls" Fry is talking about here are progressives. At least, that is the signal I'm getting from the following: "It doesn’t matter whether they think they’re defending women, men, transgender people, Muslims, humanists . . .." He is essentially invoking the "snowflake" meme. And, in what might perhaps be called an instance of the Law of Snowflakes, it's in a context where he is whining about discourse not taking the tone he prefers. (If it seems weird that I'm ignoring 80% of the parent poster's content in his comment, it is because its initial iteration of that comment only contained the first two sentences.)
- pfarnsworth 9y ago
  Trolls exist on both sides of the spectrum.
  - obstinate 9y ago
    That is no doubt true, although hardly relevant when one particular side is called out by various signals in the linked blog post, one of which I have already explained. If he were talking about conservative trolls, this would be a very different article.
- inopinatus 9y ago
  You infer too much, and he isn't whining.
ikeyany 9y ago
The forces who are interested in creating noise are far more motivated, are far more numerous, are far dirtier, and are generally far more incentivized than that forces who are interested in creating the signal. There's the rub.
devdas 9y ago
Though that was mostly a racist vote for Trump.