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> So I am thinking of revenue model based on ads. At its 'full' potential web application can draw a million visits per month (in 2-3 years may be). Please don

> So I am thinking of revenue model based on ads. At its 'full' potential web application can draw a million visits per month (in 2-3 years may be). Please don't. Find a way to charge money for it, or accept that it's really not that valuable. Sad how everybody thinks merely hosting a website entitles them to revenue now.

notadoc 9y ago
People are accustomed to paying nothing on the web, unless it's a physical product nobody is paying for anything.
- atroll 9y ago
  so true, and this is why many startups will fail if they switch to the pay to view model (i have my eyes on you medium)
- jlarocco 9y ago
  Yet Github, Dropbox, Fog Creek, Atlassian, and thousands of others aren't shutting down. Maybe it's time to raise the bar a little bit and stop funding these services that nobody really values but will use because they're "free". Ad supported companies have a strong tendency to invade people's privacy, track people around the internet, provide almost no customer support, and refuse service (or shutdown) on a whim. Google, Twitter, Facebook, Yahoo, etc. do it all the time, and it's the same way all the way down to the smaller players. Generally they're just not very good companies.
  - marcus_holmes 9y ago
    I agree. But I've noticed a similar "downvote" in physical conversations with people. I think there's a strong desire for the whole "build a huge audience for your free product, then monetise somehow" model to be valid still (if it ever actually was). Because it's easy, I think. The fact that it doesn't actually work any more is upsetting to people. So they downvote. That's my guess anyway. Not that you'll be able to read this, because this post is about to be downvoted to oblivion too ;)
eeZah7Ux 9y ago
Why the downvotes? Please don't downvote if you disagree with somebody's opinion. Start a meaningful conversation instead.
- return0 9y ago
  people would comment if they felt the comment stood on its own and was worthy of a counterarguement. However i feel the author lives in a bubble where ordinary people pay for online things.

notadoc 9y ago

People are accustomed to paying nothing on the web, unless it's a physical product nobody is paying for anything.

atroll 9y ago
so true, and this is why many startups will fail if they switch to the pay to view model (i have my eyes on you medium)
jlarocco 9y ago
Yet Github, Dropbox, Fog Creek, Atlassian, and thousands of others aren't shutting down. Maybe it's time to raise the bar a little bit and stop funding these services that nobody really values but will use because they're "free". Ad supported companies have a strong tendency to invade people's privacy, track people around the internet, provide almost no customer support, and refuse service (or shutdown) on a whim. Google, Twitter, Facebook, Yahoo, etc. do it all the time, and it's the same way all the way down to the smaller players. Generally they're just not very good companies.
- marcus_holmes 9y ago
  I agree. But I've noticed a similar "downvote" in physical conversations with people. I think there's a strong desire for the whole "build a huge audience for your free product, then monetise somehow" model to be valid still (if it ever actually was). Because it's easy, I think. The fact that it doesn't actually work any more is upsetting to people. So they downvote. That's my guess anyway. Not that you'll be able to read this, because this post is about to be downvoted to oblivion too ;)

eeZah7Ux 9y ago

Why the downvotes? Please don't downvote if you disagree with somebody's opinion. Start a meaningful conversation instead.

return0 9y ago
people would comment if they felt the comment stood on its own and was worthy of a counterarguement. However i feel the author lives in a bubble where ordinary people pay for online things.