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Exactly. Additionally, one might be forced to take a side in who they support with time or money. Assange and his ego has forced that decision before causing hi

Exactly. Additionally, one might be forced to take a side in who they support with time or money. Assange and his ego has forced that decision before causing his co-founder to leave his ass with the data (destroyed it). Assange always loved the spotlight, being in control, money, and so on. His recent actions should be thought about with that in back of mind.

grandalf 9y ago
Are you serious? Your comment sounds like someone following a soap opera. Would you care about the personal drama of the leaker of 10 years of Trump tax returns? The story is the leaked information, not the silly drama and rumor nonsense you describe.
- johnny22 9y ago
  If there was a leaker who leaked one thing, then I'd care less about their personal drama than if they were a continued source of leaks.
- nickpsecurity 9y ago
  The only drama was what Assange caused which split up Wikileaks team. Would you rather give money to effective, honest people or drama-loving liars if you had the choice? And could you even rely on accuracy of most leaks from someone who would scheme on his people or mislead sources about their safety for his own gain? Sourcd integrity is always relevant. It's why spies and journalists are taught to assess that about potential sources. Half-assed integrity gets corroborated extra before trusted. Low integrity often gets ignored unless an organization wants to benefit from it.
contingencies 9y ago
Assange always loved the spotlight, being in control, money, and so on. Not in my experience. I had long discussions with him in 2009 and first met him in 1997. I have only seem him share information and resources and he is clearly motivated by genuine concern for the world. He was raised by left wing family on the east coast of Australia. He created an encryption system to resist torture from authoritarian governments. As early as the 1990s he released numerous hacks (strobe, traceroute spoofing, etc.) in good humour. He gave away accounts on his systems for free to others. This was all years before Wikileaks, and required mastering networking and mathematics to world-class levels at the time. These efforts and their shared results show that he has spent his lifetime motivated by factors other than greed and ego. TLDR; In my view, which is nominally more informed than yours, you are basically re-spouting a baseless or near baseless government sponsored character assassination. PS. Isn't this perfectly generic slander? Couldn't you mount the same accusation at anyone intelligent as soon as they get an audience?
- nickpsecurity 9y ago
  "TLDR; In my view, which is nominally more informed than yours, you are basically re-spouting a baseless or near baseless government sponsored character assassination." Or you're describing him in his youth which came before his fame plus how he presented himself in discussions with people that like him. I speak of his actions during Wikileaks not theory I gained from speaking to him. Most of his collaborators that left him said similar stuff. They didn't say it about their other associates. "required mastering networking" That's funny given his network security was shit until he hired some engineer to help him. He also lied to sources about what level of protection he offered. It's what all good people do. ;) "He created an encryption system to resist torture from authoritarian governments." Wow. You're the first, intelligent person I've heard describe it that way. It was actually designed for the total opposite: a person having encryption under a torture-loving, authoritarian regime would give them either nothing or a series of somethings they wouldn't believe. In other words, they'd keep getting tortured until the other side was satisfied with what they found or what damage they did. It was a brilliant, but insidious, system I'd never use for that reason. Incidentally, I never saw any report Julian Assange used it himself for Wikileaks. Cuz being tortured is for other people. "Isn't this perfectly generic slander? Couldn't you mount the same accusation at anyone intelligent as soon as they get an audience?" Most of them acted differently. Nothing psychotic or destroying their teams for ego. So, no I don't say the same thing about most other people when they get attention. If anything, they usually do similar stuff to what they were doing before but with more attention. Makes me wonder about Assange.

grandalf 9y ago

Are you serious? Your comment sounds like someone following a soap opera. Would you care about the personal drama of the leaker of 10 years of Trump tax returns? The story is the leaked information, not the silly drama and rumor nonsense you describe.

johnny22 9y ago
If there was a leaker who leaked one thing, then I'd care less about their personal drama than if they were a continued source of leaks.
nickpsecurity 9y ago
The only drama was what Assange caused which split up Wikileaks team. Would you rather give money to effective, honest people or drama-loving liars if you had the choice? And could you even rely on accuracy of most leaks from someone who would scheme on his people or mislead sources about their safety for his own gain? Sourcd integrity is always relevant. It's why spies and journalists are taught to assess that about potential sources. Half-assed integrity gets corroborated extra before trusted. Low integrity often gets ignored unless an organization wants to benefit from it.

contingencies 9y ago

Assange always loved the spotlight, being in control, money, and so on. Not in my experience. I had long discussions with him in 2009 and first met him in 1997. I have only seem him share information and resources and he is clearly motivated by genuine concern for the world. He was raised by left wing family on the east coast of Australia. He created an encryption system to resist torture from authoritarian governments. As early as the 1990s he released numerous hacks (strobe, traceroute spoofing, etc.) in good humour. He gave away accounts on his systems for free to others. This was all years before Wikileaks, and required mastering networking and mathematics to world-class levels at the time. These efforts and their shared results show that he has spent his lifetime motivated by factors other than greed and ego. TLDR; In my view, which is nominally more informed than yours, you are basically re-spouting a baseless or near baseless government sponsored character assassination. PS. Isn't this perfectly generic slander? Couldn't you mount the same accusation at anyone intelligent as soon as they get an audience?

nickpsecurity 9y ago
"TLDR; In my view, which is nominally more informed than yours, you are basically re-spouting a baseless or near baseless government sponsored character assassination." Or you're describing him in his youth which came before his fame plus how he presented himself in discussions with people that like him. I speak of his actions during Wikileaks not theory I gained from speaking to him. Most of his collaborators that left him said similar stuff. They didn't say it about their other associates. "required mastering networking" That's funny given his network security was shit until he hired some engineer to help him. He also lied to sources about what level of protection he offered. It's what all good people do. ;) "He created an encryption system to resist torture from authoritarian governments." Wow. You're the first, intelligent person I've heard describe it that way. It was actually designed for the total opposite: a person having encryption under a torture-loving, authoritarian regime would give them either nothing or a series of somethings they wouldn't believe. In other words, they'd keep getting tortured until the other side was satisfied with what they found or what damage they did. It was a brilliant, but insidious, system I'd never use for that reason. Incidentally, I never saw any report Julian Assange used it himself for Wikileaks. Cuz being tortured is for other people. "Isn't this perfectly generic slander? Couldn't you mount the same accusation at anyone intelligent as soon as they get an audience?" Most of them acted differently. Nothing psychotic or destroying their teams for ego. So, no I don't say the same thing about most other people when they get attention. If anything, they usually do similar stuff to what they were doing before but with more attention. Makes me wonder about Assange.