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The specific claims: “In WikiLeaks’ efforts to prevent the distribution of ‘Risk,’ they are using the very tactics often used against them – legal threats, fals
by msabalau 9y ago
The specific claims: “In WikiLeaks’ efforts to prevent the distribution of ‘Risk,’ they are using the very tactics often used against them – legal threats, false security claims, underhanded personal attacks, misdirection – and with the same intentions: to suppress information and silence speech"
- sillysaurus3 9y agoThis would carry more weight with links to the specific court filings. Would it be possible to track these down?
- mirimir 9y agoIt is funny to see Wikileaks complaining about leaks. Not even leaks, but rather material provided voluntarily. They were obviously gobsmacked by Poitras turning on them. I must say, however, that Wikileaks overall censors leaks much less heavily than do Greenwald, Poitras and crew. I mean, does anyone know what percentage of Snowden's stuff that's been released? It's my impression that it's small. Edit: typo
- codyb 9y agoI thought that was the whole idea? Let them curate and release the relevent information?
- mirimir 9y agoI guess. But many are pissed off about how little's been released. And about how much it's been monetized. Edit: OK, "profited from".
- meowface 9y agoHow much has it been monetized? How do we know only a small amount of it was released?
- mirimir 9y agoI should have said "profited from". I mean, The Intercept was built on them. Greenwald and crew have probably earned millions of dollars from them. The US government claims that he took millions of documents. We haven't seen more than thousands, I think. And I've read claims that only a small percentage has been released.
- astronautjones 9y agothe USG claim has been aggressively disputed by GG et al
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- mirimir 9y agoRe Poitras turning on Assange: https://www.counterpunch.org/2017/05/23/risk-a-sad-comedown-for-laura-poitras/ https://www.counterpunch.org/2017/05/23/risk-a-sad-comedown-... I had forgotten that she and Appelbaum had been lovers. Bringing him into the mix destroys the film's objectivity.
- mowenz 9y agoThat is actually a pretty good point and not one that was obvious to someone who follows this topic and these are big figures in it (behind Greenwald, Snowden, Assange, etc.)
- asveikau 9y agoWhat is this supposed to convince me of? I am now more convinced that Assange is guilty if this is the way his defenders talk. This reads like a guy trying to defend a rapist. Does he seriously not understand why people get touchy on the subject of sexual assault when he calls it political correctness? This is not simple unorthodoxy as alleged in your link but a serious crime. It's also hilarious that he is compared to Gandhi at the end.
- mirimir 9y agoI've read many articles about what went down in Sweden. I've seen no claims that he forced either woman to have sex. He didn't seduce them. They wanted to have sex with him, and bragged to their friends. And they remained friendly with him afterward. Until they learned that he'd had sex with both of them. That's when it got crazy. Also, one of them was concerned that a condom had broken, and wanted him tested for STDs. That's initially why she filed a police report. After that, it was mostly driven by the prosecutor. It's not impossible that the US government played a role in that. But the women were initially Wikileaks supporters, and weren't likely part of a plot to entrap him.
- asveikau 9y agoI googled and found: https://www.theguardian.com/media/2010/dec/17/julian-assange-sweden https://www.theguardian.com/media/2010/dec/17/julian-assange... If this is as reported, I am not a lawyer but it sounds like he committed a crime, and he is most certainly a major asshole, among other things pushing the boundaries of what constitutes consent, then making the other party feel uncomfortable in their own home. Then he blames the consequences on a global conspiracy. Probably part of the abuser personality, to evict himself from blame. I was thinking, western intelligence has done a lot of sketchy things, usually in the form of coups, more recently with "enhanced interrogation" or eavesdropping... But I am not aware of any other case where people claim they falsely accused somebody of rape. Doesn't fit the profile.
- superfad 9y agoCryptome was keeping a tally of what has been released. The problem is the total size of the trove is not known publicly. But yes, it would be a very tiny percentage. https://cryptome.org/2013/11/snowden-tally.htm https://cryptome.org/2013/11/snowden-tally.htm
- mirimir 9y agoThanks. That accounting has been updated through 18 November 2016. It seems like at most 1% has been released.