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>"engineered to simply keep people in the hole once they through misfortune or carelessness slip up" This seems like a pretty extraordinary claim made pretty c
by Banthum 9y ago
>"engineered to simply keep people in the hole once they through misfortune or carelessness slip up"
This seems like a pretty extraordinary claim made pretty casually.
What would motivate someone to intentionally prevent poor people from helping themselves?
It seems much more likely a case of straightforward government dysfunction enabled by all the usual factors that make the government suck at accomplishing things.
If the government ID infrastructure ran as well as Facebook's ad targeting department, we would have no problems of this kind whatsoever.
- jacquesm 9y ago> What would motivate someone to intentionally prevent poor people from helping themselves? Less social security to be paid out. Once homeless the way back is super hard, and to receive social security you have to have a registered address and to have a registered address you need ID. So good luck reversing that.
- lisper 9y ago> Less social security to be paid out. That, and fewer people voting for democrats.
- typomatic 9y ago> If the government ID infrastructure ran as well as Facebook's ad targeting department, we would have no problems of this kind whatsoever. You might want to rethink that statement. I suspect that the government ID infrastructure works flawlessly for about 99.9% of users. The FB ad infrastructure does not work that well.
- Avshalom 9y ago>What would motivate someone to intentionally prevent poor people from helping themselves? A theology that holds that god rewards the just and thus the poor must be so because they're wicked and/or a fucked up reading of the phrase "the poor will always be with you" A desire to 'prove' an economic philosophy that the poor brought it on themselves by creating a self perpetuating spiral of doom and then pointing to people that get caught in it as proof. Racism and a general supposition that these policies affect those people over there to a sufficient degree that these people over here are an acceptable loss. Just being a fucking dick.
- throwanem 9y agoYes. This is why you find people of Christian faith volunteering to...you know what, never mind. I wish I lived in a world as simple as the one you seem to.
- jacquesm 9y agoVolunteering is not limited to people of Christian faith.
- rayiner 9y agoI mean, religion isn't a homogeneous thing. There are folks like the ones in the article, for sure, but there are also ones who buy into the whole gospel of prosperity thing.
- throwanem 9y agoTell that to your grandparent commenter.
- Avshalom 9y agohttps://www.statnews.com/2017/03/03/roger-marshall-kansas-obamacare/ https://www.statnews.com/2017/03/03/roger-marshall-kansas-ob... >“Just like Jesus said, ‘The poor will always be with us,’” he said. “There is a group of people that just don’t want health care and aren’t going to take care of themselves.” >Pressed on that point, Marshall shrugged. No seriously, some people have a really fucked up reading of "the poor will always be with us" and some of those people are actually in charge of things. for some context on that particular bible quote: http://www.patheos.com/blogs/slacktivist/2017/03/03/ignorant-jerks-abusing-poor-will-always-will-always/ http://www.patheos.com/blogs/slacktivist/2017/03/03/ignorant... Jesus is solid on this one, that doesn't mean people don't build their beliefs on some weird interpretations of what some one once told them Jesus said.