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Touche! :D The point still stands. If "mostly-automated one-to-one spelling and hyphenation updates" changes 'wand'ring' to 'wandering', 'worth's' to 'worth is

Touche! :D The point still stands. If "mostly-automated one-to-one spelling and hyphenation updates" changes 'wand'ring' to 'wandering', 'worth's' to 'worth is' or 'Love's' to 'Love is', you break the sonnet.

acabal 9y ago
Our changes do not :)
roninb 9y ago
I think this is a good time to maybe do some research into whether your complaints are valid or not before making them... You clearly aren't seeing that the point, in fact, does not stand...
- DoubleCribble 9y ago
  OK, now I'm intrigued. How does changing the spelling of key words not break iambic pentameter?
  - PeterisP 9y ago
    Iambic pentameter depends on pronunciation, not spelling, and the changes/reforms/standartization generally affects the spelling only. If you take an archaic representation of some sounds and replace it with the modern representation of those sounds, the verse isn't changed. In that example, "vnknowne" is pronounced the same as "unknown", despite having an extra "vowel" in the typography.
    - dragonwriter 9y ago
      Spelling (and related things) in poetry (especially contractions) often signals intended pronunciation variations from the standard pronunciation of a word. A mechanical modernization and standardization would seem to run a significant risk of damaging some of these, though proper manual final review would hopefully catch and revert the problematic cases.
    - DoubleCribble 9y ago
      Pronunciation is based on the spelling. How many syllables are in the word 'wandring'? How many are in the word 'wandering'? Sadly, the modernization breaks the meter and it's no longer a sonnet. I have a sneaky suspicion The Bard was deliberate in his choice of spelling...
  - roninb 9y ago
    Better yet, take the advice given and download the free epub and pick a random page and decide for yourself whether iambic pentameter is kept!
PhasmaFelis 9y ago
Does it change those? That would go well beyond the stated intent, because those are perfectly valid constructions in modern English.

acabal 9y ago

Our changes do not :)

roninb 9y ago

I think this is a good time to maybe do some research into whether your complaints are valid or not before making them... You clearly aren't seeing that the point, in fact, does not stand...

DoubleCribble 9y ago
OK, now I'm intrigued. How does changing the spelling of key words not break iambic pentameter?
- PeterisP 9y ago
  Iambic pentameter depends on pronunciation, not spelling, and the changes/reforms/standartization generally affects the spelling only. If you take an archaic representation of some sounds and replace it with the modern representation of those sounds, the verse isn't changed. In that example, "vnknowne" is pronounced the same as "unknown", despite having an extra "vowel" in the typography.
  - dragonwriter 9y ago
    Spelling (and related things) in poetry (especially contractions) often signals intended pronunciation variations from the standard pronunciation of a word. A mechanical modernization and standardization would seem to run a significant risk of damaging some of these, though proper manual final review would hopefully catch and revert the problematic cases.
  - DoubleCribble 9y ago
    Pronunciation is based on the spelling. How many syllables are in the word 'wandring'? How many are in the word 'wandering'? Sadly, the modernization breaks the meter and it's no longer a sonnet. I have a sneaky suspicion The Bard was deliberate in his choice of spelling...
- roninb 9y ago
  Better yet, take the advice given and download the free epub and pick a random page and decide for yourself whether iambic pentameter is kept!

PhasmaFelis 9y ago

Does it change those? That would go well beyond the stated intent, because those are perfectly valid constructions in modern English.