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Oh come on there's some middleground where you can have repairability without bulky. Macbook pros are not bulky but you can absolutely get inside them to repai

Oh come on there's some middleground where you can have repairability without bulky. Macbook pros are not bulky but you can absolutely get inside them to repair & replace parts.

glhaynes 9y ago
Modern MacBook Pros are quite a bit thinner (and more solid/sturdy feeling) than just a few years ago; and, poking around at iFixit's site, it looks like they all get 1/10 scores.
- rayiner 9y ago
  iFixit is weird about Macs. On the Mac, you can at least open the thing up to replace a fan (the only moving part in the whole machine). You can also replace the battery with a little bit of effort to undo the glue. But it only gets 1/10, compared to the 0 the Surface Laptop gets which you can't even open at all.
  - haldean 9y ago
    It's being compared to things like a Thinkpad: the manual for my T430 has guides to walk you through how to replace every single part inside, as well as the product numbers for each part so you can order individual replacements yourself. Not only is everything easily replaceable and upgradable, but they actually help you do it!
    - abawany 9y ago
      Another Surface competitor/clone is the HP Elite X2 1012 G1 (what I have). Opening it is a pleasure - takes under 5 minutes. Once open, the screen, SSD, and battery are easy to replace. I updated the SSD on mine in less than 15 minutes.
    - mschuster91 9y ago
      Thinkpads were/are for enterprises with mass deployments and enough IT staff that needs to be able to fix stuff instead of sending it in to a repair center and wait for two weeks.
      - haldean 9y ago
        Sure, but motivation aside, it's nice for someone like me who is buying their own laptop and wants something they can repair and upgrade, too.
lotso 9y ago
They don't seem to have a teardown of the latest MacBook Pros, but looking at the MacBook, it looks like they are heading in the same direction. https://www.ifixit.com/Device/Retina_MacBook_2017 https://www.ifixit.com/Device/Retina_MacBook_2017
- devoply 9y ago
  I have a 2011 Macbook that I am writing on. I believe that's the perfect compromise. Anything more than this at least for me is going in the wrong direction. Solid (aluminum body), powerful (i7 16gb ram), and repairable. If you just kept making more powerful versions of this size and repair-ability I would be a happy camper.
- Dunedan 9y ago
  Sure they have: https://www.ifixit.com/Teardown/MacBook+Pro+13-Inch+Touch+Bar+2017+Teardown/92171 https://www.ifixit.com/Teardown/MacBook+Pro+13-Inch+Touch+Ba...
duskwuff 9y ago
Current models of Macbook Air are reasonably repairable as well. I've swapped the top case on mine to fix a keyboard issue, for instance. It was a bit of a slog, but didn't require any special tools beyond a pentalobe screwdriver, and everything went back together properly afterwards.

Oh come on there's some middleground where you can have repairability without bulky. Macbook pros are not bulky but you can absolutely get inside them to repair & replace parts.

glhaynes 9y ago

Modern MacBook Pros are quite a bit thinner (and more solid/sturdy feeling) than just a few years ago; and, poking around at iFixit's site, it looks like they all get 1/10 scores.

rayiner 9y ago
iFixit is weird about Macs. On the Mac, you can at least open the thing up to replace a fan (the only moving part in the whole machine). You can also replace the battery with a little bit of effort to undo the glue. But it only gets 1/10, compared to the 0 the Surface Laptop gets which you can't even open at all.
- haldean 9y ago
  It's being compared to things like a Thinkpad: the manual for my T430 has guides to walk you through how to replace every single part inside, as well as the product numbers for each part so you can order individual replacements yourself. Not only is everything easily replaceable and upgradable, but they actually help you do it!
  - abawany 9y ago
    Another Surface competitor/clone is the HP Elite X2 1012 G1 (what I have). Opening it is a pleasure - takes under 5 minutes. Once open, the screen, SSD, and battery are easy to replace. I updated the SSD on mine in less than 15 minutes.
  - mschuster91 9y ago
    Thinkpads were/are for enterprises with mass deployments and enough IT staff that needs to be able to fix stuff instead of sending it in to a repair center and wait for two weeks.
    - haldean 9y ago
      Sure, but motivation aside, it's nice for someone like me who is buying their own laptop and wants something they can repair and upgrade, too.

lotso 9y ago

They don't seem to have a teardown of the latest MacBook Pros, but looking at the MacBook, it looks like they are heading in the same direction. https://www.ifixit.com/Device/Retina_MacBook_2017 https://www.ifixit.com/Device/Retina_MacBook_2017

devoply 9y ago
I have a 2011 Macbook that I am writing on. I believe that's the perfect compromise. Anything more than this at least for me is going in the wrong direction. Solid (aluminum body), powerful (i7 16gb ram), and repairable. If you just kept making more powerful versions of this size and repair-ability I would be a happy camper.
Dunedan 9y ago
Sure they have: https://www.ifixit.com/Teardown/MacBook+Pro+13-Inch+Touch+Bar+2017+Teardown/92171 https://www.ifixit.com/Teardown/MacBook+Pro+13-Inch+Touch+Ba...

duskwuff 9y ago

Current models of Macbook Air are reasonably repairable as well. I've swapped the top case on mine to fix a keyboard issue, for instance. It was a bit of a slog, but didn't require any special tools beyond a pentalobe screwdriver, and everything went back together properly afterwards.