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Unfortunately, most consumers are making this harder and harder to do. They now demand thiner and lighter PCs, phones and tables, which make upgrading them incr

Unfortunately, most consumers are making this harder and harder to do. They now demand thiner and lighter PCs, phones and tables, which make upgrading them increasingly more difficult. What really pisses me off, though, is that specifically Apple is making upgrading all their PCs and laptops impossible (there is currently no Apple laptop that you can easily open with a screw driver without risking damaging the whole laptop). I currently have a 6 year old macbook pro and I love it. I was able to upgrade it a few times (RAM to 16GB and a 650GB SSD) but I am not sure if I will buy another mac if apple has no laptop that is upgradeable and servicable to a certain degree. While my mac is still fine, the CPU is getting slow (compiling bigger programs takes 5 to 10 times as long as they do on newer machines) and I am worried that my mac might not get security upgrades any time now. What the EU would have to do is strike a good compromise, which makes it realistic to upgrade/service devices without pissing off customers because "EU device are so much bigger". Maybe they should force manufactures to sell a bulkier device which is serviceable alongside a non-serviceable device for the same price if a company insists on having a non-serviceable device. But that would increase the costs significantly because now suddenly Apple/Microsoft has to design two devices and offer them for the same price even though one device might only be bought by 1% of the customers. I would really like a bigger MacBook Pro with upgradable components. I use my MacBook as a desktop computer 99% of the time (lit closed with an external screen) but I also need to be able to take it anywhere the 1% and not have to send a large amount of time to upgrade the software, install the new tools just to realize I have forgotten something and use all my mobile just to download that one thing. But maybe I am just a minority.

FireBeyond 9y ago
> They now demand thiner and lighter PCs Do they, though? Like the latest MBP, less battery life, no 32GB option - I don't see many people complaining, "Sorry, the Early 2016 MBP is too thick, need it thinner".
- Matt3o12_ 9y ago
  Yes they do. A lot of people are really excited about the MacBook and MacBook Pro because they are so thin. I even know somebody with the new MacBook Pro who loves its speed and power while being extremely thin. He said he could not image using his older MacBook Pro (I think it was one from 2013) because it was "too thick and heavy". He didn't really need all the power nevertheless he bought one of the more expensive ones because he thought he did. There are a lot of people who buy powerful MacBooks because it makes them feel important. Some of them tend to be sales people who travel to customers to show off some software on their $2k Hardware although this software runs just fine on a MacBook Air. We are a small bubble who can actually take advantage of much ram (I for one need a lot for VMs and google chrome) but most people do not need more ram. fortunately, this year developers and media professionals were finally fed up with the under specced MacBooks and cried loud enough so that the media heard them. And suddenly a lot of people who already had the MacBooks also thought 8/16GB was not enough and started complaining.
  - FireBeyond 9y ago
    > He said he could not image using his older MacBook Pro (I think it was one from 2013) because it was "too thick and heavy". Given that the difference between the two in thickness is .1", just over 2mm, I'd likely equate that to bias. Yes, it's thinner, but in a way that is noticeable on your lap or your desk, or in your backpack? Not as much.

FireBeyond 9y ago

> They now demand thiner and lighter PCs Do they, though? Like the latest MBP, less battery life, no 32GB option - I don't see many people complaining, "Sorry, the Early 2016 MBP is too thick, need it thinner".

Matt3o12_ 9y ago
Yes they do. A lot of people are really excited about the MacBook and MacBook Pro because they are so thin. I even know somebody with the new MacBook Pro who loves its speed and power while being extremely thin. He said he could not image using his older MacBook Pro (I think it was one from 2013) because it was "too thick and heavy". He didn't really need all the power nevertheless he bought one of the more expensive ones because he thought he did. There are a lot of people who buy powerful MacBooks because it makes them feel important. Some of them tend to be sales people who travel to customers to show off some software on their $2k Hardware although this software runs just fine on a MacBook Air. We are a small bubble who can actually take advantage of much ram (I for one need a lot for VMs and google chrome) but most people do not need more ram. fortunately, this year developers and media professionals were finally fed up with the under specced MacBooks and cried loud enough so that the media heard them. And suddenly a lot of people who already had the MacBooks also thought 8/16GB was not enough and started complaining.
- FireBeyond 9y ago
  > He said he could not image using his older MacBook Pro (I think it was one from 2013) because it was "too thick and heavy". Given that the difference between the two in thickness is .1", just over 2mm, I'd likely equate that to bias. Yes, it's thinner, but in a way that is noticeable on your lap or your desk, or in your backpack? Not as much.