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I’m not sure I follow. Should we not be impressed and respect someone capable of living off potatoes off the top of Everest? That would be incredible! At the r

I’m not sure I follow. Should we not be impressed and respect someone capable of living off potatoes off the top of Everest? That would be incredible! At the risk of using stale analogies: In the eyes of many, crossing the Atlantic was premature at best. In the eyes of many, summiting Everest is a waste of tens of thousands of dollars. In the eyes of many, free climbing is border-line delusional. And that’s the point. This diversity of prioritization is what makes our species so great. Let the dreamers dream. I can see how you might want to make an argument that we shouldn’t publicly fund every naïve dreamer, but it seems difficult to argue that both NASA and Musk are idiots with how much they’ve already accomplished. “Ah, but a man’s reach should exceed his grasp, or what’s a heaven for?”

grondilu 9y ago
NASA doesn't have the same objectives than Musk regarding mars. And I did not call Musk an idiot. Look, I understand people can have dreams that I neither understand nor approve. As you correctly pointed out, as long as they don't divert tax payer money to fund them, I'm more or less fine with it. Yet, when I see someone doing something that I consider silly, or even suicidal (for mars the term is almost appropriate), I feel compelled to at least say it loud. Like if I saw Franz Reichelt just before he jumped from the Eiffel tower[1]. I would say "don't do that, you'll kill yourself" and nobody should blame me for saying that. Well, in the case of the colonization of mars, to me that sounds like a terribly wasteful and dangerous idea, and I feel compelled to say it whenever the subject comes up. 1. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6gsnVntGoxM https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6gsnVntGoxM
- bufbupa 9y ago
  Sorry, didn't mean to put words in your mouth. I think you made a fair point. I was just responding with the other side of the coin to bring a little yang to the yin :)
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- dwaltrip 9y ago
  What about the second order effects of pushing humanity closer to becoming a full fledged space faring civilization? You don't find any value in that?

grondilu 9y ago

NASA doesn't have the same objectives than Musk regarding mars. And I did not call Musk an idiot. Look, I understand people can have dreams that I neither understand nor approve. As you correctly pointed out, as long as they don't divert tax payer money to fund them, I'm more or less fine with it. Yet, when I see someone doing something that I consider silly, or even suicidal (for mars the term is almost appropriate), I feel compelled to at least say it loud. Like if I saw Franz Reichelt just before he jumped from the Eiffel tower[1]. I would say "don't do that, you'll kill yourself" and nobody should blame me for saying that. Well, in the case of the colonization of mars, to me that sounds like a terribly wasteful and dangerous idea, and I feel compelled to say it whenever the subject comes up. 1. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6gsnVntGoxM https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6gsnVntGoxM

bufbupa 9y ago
Sorry, didn't mean to put words in your mouth. I think you made a fair point. I was just responding with the other side of the coin to bring a little yang to the yin :)
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dwaltrip 9y ago
What about the second order effects of pushing humanity closer to becoming a full fledged space faring civilization? You don't find any value in that?