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Those who leave home, and those who stay

16 points by mizzao 9y ago

JshWright 9y ago
That would be a lot more readable without the _giant_ cartoons every couple paragraphs... As far as the actual content goes, I wonder what impact the rise of remote work will have on this data in the coming decade or two. Personally, I'm an outlier, according to this data. I'm white, a democrat, have a well paying (remote) job, and live (literally) across the street from my childhood home in upstate New York (actually 'upstate', not 'Westchester'... there are cows within walking distance of my house). It's the best of both worlds, from my perspective. Remote work gives me the benefits of a "big city" career path, but with the added benefit of having my kids grandparents just across the street.
- Chaebixi 9y ago
  You're in luck! They have a whole series of 43 cartoonxplainers: https://www.vox.com/explainers/2016/10/27/13435798/alvin-cartoonxplainer https://www.vox.com/explainers/2016/10/27/13435798/alvin-car... Why should children be the only ones who get to have things explained to them slowly with big cartoons?
- dsfyu404ed 9y ago
  >actually 'upstate', not 'Westcheste Glad you clarified because I was about to call you on that one.
  - JshWright 9y ago
    Heh. Yeah, I'm ~15 miles outside Syracuse (near farm country southeast of the city).
    - milkywayz 9y ago
      I'm from Camillus and go to school in Rochester. Last summer I was living back at home whilst working remotely (as part of graduation requirements). To me, the Syracuse area is prime for living and if you are able to make good money remotely it's truly the best of both worlds.
- kylehotchkiss 9y ago
  I come from very similar circumstances as yourself! Just moved to the city-ish area, but having land for the kids to enjoy is nice. And quiet too!
xxSparkleSxx 9y ago
TL;DR People who stay in their hometowns are more likely to be Trump supporters than those than move away. Digging into the data shows these Trump supporters are more likely to be economically disadvantaged. People who return home after moving away often come back for good-paying, niche jobs and this helps the local community. Recently migration trends have slowed this "move-back". I recently attended a high-school reunion and I probably could have written the same article from my experience. I grew up outside a small city in a fly-over state. Those that left either came from the upper-middle class and/or performed extremely well in high-school (with a few exceptions). I met up with many of my old friends that are very smart men and women that seem to be "stuck" working mediocre, unfulfilling, and low-paid jobs. I also know many very, very average people that came from some means and somehow have a very nice, well-paying career (which is awesome for them!). It is no surprise to me that smart people feeling trapped in their lives without economic opportunity nor hope for opportunity in the future, will be attracted to an authoritarian that preys on fear.
dsfyu404ed 9y ago
TL;DR you reap what you sow.

16 points by mizzao 9y ago

That would be a lot more readable without the _giant_ cartoons every couple paragraphs... As far as the actual content goes, I wonder what impact the rise of remote work will have on this data in the coming decade or two. Personally, I'm an outlier, according to this data. I'm white, a democrat, have a well paying (remote) job, and live (literally) across the street from my childhood home in upstate New York (actually 'upstate', not 'Westchester'... there are cows within walking distance of my house). It's the best of both worlds, from my perspective. Remote work gives me the benefits of a "big city" career path, but with the added benefit of having my kids grandparents just across the street.

Chaebixi 9y ago
You're in luck! They have a whole series of 43 cartoonxplainers: https://www.vox.com/explainers/2016/10/27/13435798/alvin-cartoonxplainer https://www.vox.com/explainers/2016/10/27/13435798/alvin-car... Why should children be the only ones who get to have things explained to them slowly with big cartoons?
dsfyu404ed 9y ago
>actually 'upstate', not 'Westcheste Glad you clarified because I was about to call you on that one.
- JshWright 9y ago
  Heh. Yeah, I'm ~15 miles outside Syracuse (near farm country southeast of the city).
  - milkywayz 9y ago
    I'm from Camillus and go to school in Rochester. Last summer I was living back at home whilst working remotely (as part of graduation requirements). To me, the Syracuse area is prime for living and if you are able to make good money remotely it's truly the best of both worlds.
kylehotchkiss 9y ago
I come from very similar circumstances as yourself! Just moved to the city-ish area, but having land for the kids to enjoy is nice. And quiet too!

xxSparkleSxx 9y ago

TL;DR People who stay in their hometowns are more likely to be Trump supporters than those than move away. Digging into the data shows these Trump supporters are more likely to be economically disadvantaged. People who return home after moving away often come back for good-paying, niche jobs and this helps the local community. Recently migration trends have slowed this "move-back". I recently attended a high-school reunion and I probably could have written the same article from my experience. I grew up outside a small city in a fly-over state. Those that left either came from the upper-middle class and/or performed extremely well in high-school (with a few exceptions). I met up with many of my old friends that are very smart men and women that seem to be "stuck" working mediocre, unfulfilling, and low-paid jobs. I also know many very, very average people that came from some means and somehow have a very nice, well-paying career (which is awesome for them!). It is no surprise to me that smart people feeling trapped in their lives without economic opportunity nor hope for opportunity in the future, will be attracted to an authoritarian that preys on fear.

dsfyu404ed 9y ago

TL;DR you reap what you sow.