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Feedback is extremely valuable. But you should take it with a grain of salt. If you are rejected several times, with feedback, and some of that feedback happens

Feedback is extremely valuable. But you should take it with a grain of salt. If you are rejected several times, with feedback, and some of that feedback happens to overlap? Definitely something to consider fixing.

threeseed 9y ago
Sorry but this is the real world. If you want feedback go see a therapist or career coach or talk to friends, family, mentors, previous coworkers etc. Don't expect a hiring manager to do this for you. As someone who has interviewed hundreds it would actually make me resent you because if you can't show the initiative or take the responsibility to improve yourself then I made the right decision not to hire you. Worst of all I and many others would feel uncomfortable giving personality advice (if that was the issue) and would just lie and give some other reason. It's human nature and would just throw you off course and wouldn't help anyone.
- zck 9y ago
  Isn't asking for feedback in a real-world scenario (not a fake one like having your friends interview you) precisely the kind of thing one would do if he or she is interested in improving him or herself?
- in_the_sticks 9y ago
  Where do you work? I'd like to place it in my "don't work for these assholes" file.
- citizens 9y ago
  > As someone who has interviewed hundreds it would actually make me resent you because if you can't show the initiative or take the responsibility to improve yourself How do they know what to improve if you won't tell them what needs improvement (in your eyes)?
- linkregister 9y ago
  Giving feedback is the recruiter's job; a hiring manager doesn't have the overhead. It's simple for a credible recruiter to share a couple of sentences to the candidate. Clearly your strengths lie in organization, communication, and technology, not in carefully interacting with other people (as in Sales, Marketing, Recruiting). Delegate this to the recruiter so the candidate doesn't get a bad impression of the company they just attempted to join.
- tokenizerrr 9y ago
  Feel free to resent me, you've already said no anyway. I will resent you and your company for that, as well. However as far as I'm concerned you might as well not exist once I walk out of that door. But before I do that, I will try to use you for my own benefit. Luckily, most people I've met turn out to not actually be dicks like yourself and it works out great.

threeseed 9y ago

Sorry but this is the real world. If you want feedback go see a therapist or career coach or talk to friends, family, mentors, previous coworkers etc. Don't expect a hiring manager to do this for you. As someone who has interviewed hundreds it would actually make me resent you because if you can't show the initiative or take the responsibility to improve yourself then I made the right decision not to hire you. Worst of all I and many others would feel uncomfortable giving personality advice (if that was the issue) and would just lie and give some other reason. It's human nature and would just throw you off course and wouldn't help anyone.

zck 9y ago
Isn't asking for feedback in a real-world scenario (not a fake one like having your friends interview you) precisely the kind of thing one would do if he or she is interested in improving him or herself?
in_the_sticks 9y ago
Where do you work? I'd like to place it in my "don't work for these assholes" file.
citizens 9y ago
> As someone who has interviewed hundreds it would actually make me resent you because if you can't show the initiative or take the responsibility to improve yourself How do they know what to improve if you won't tell them what needs improvement (in your eyes)?
linkregister 9y ago
Giving feedback is the recruiter's job; a hiring manager doesn't have the overhead. It's simple for a credible recruiter to share a couple of sentences to the candidate. Clearly your strengths lie in organization, communication, and technology, not in carefully interacting with other people (as in Sales, Marketing, Recruiting). Delegate this to the recruiter so the candidate doesn't get a bad impression of the company they just attempted to join.
tokenizerrr 9y ago
Feel free to resent me, you've already said no anyway. I will resent you and your company for that, as well. However as far as I'm concerned you might as well not exist once I walk out of that door. But before I do that, I will try to use you for my own benefit. Luckily, most people I've met turn out to not actually be dicks like yourself and it works out great.