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Got any good literature on this because I haven't found any supporting what you said. Code of Hammurabi didn't standardize an existing practice in my understand

by mempko 9y ago

Got any good literature on this because I haven't found any supporting what you said. Code of Hammurabi didn't standardize an existing practice in my understanding.

dredmorbius 9y ago
The persistence in the use of Roman currency throughout Europe after the fall of Rome, the use of various currencies in pre-Columbian America, including the continued use of same by post-Columbian Americans, as well as other commodity monies: beaver pelts, cowhides, etc. These were frequently (though not exclusively) used in frontier regions, where the notion of a government regulating trade was all but absent, or between tribes with whom there was no single overarching regulatory body or legal code. Wampum is the source of "clams" as a synonym for money. https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wampum https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wampum http://factcards.califa.org/mli/tannery.html http://factcards.califa.org/mli/tannery.html The use of cowhides as money is also discussed in Richard Henry Dana's Two Years Before the Mast, a travellogue/history of early California in the 1830s. (Also mentioned at the URL above). http://www.worldcat.org/title/two-years-before-the-mast-a-personal-narrative-of-life-at-sea/oclc/944310002 http://www.worldcat.org/title/two-years-before-the-mast-a-pe... The code of Hammurabi: "Nearly one-half of the code deals with matters of contract, establishing, for example, the wages to be paid to an ox driver or a surgeon." https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Code_of_Hammurabi https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Code_of_Hammurabi Citing: http://www.commonlaw.com/home/legal-history-and-philosophy/code-of-hammurabi http://www.commonlaw.com/home/legal-history-and-philosophy/c... William Stanley Jevons wrote at length on money in the 1880s, and discusses early forms of currency, including several mentioned above: https://archive.org/stream/moneyandmechani01jevogoog#page/n43/mode/2up https://archive.org/stream/moneyandmechani01jevogoog#page/n4... I'll leave you free to conduct further research on your own.
- mempko 9y ago
  Nothing here disagrees with what I said. Example, Wampum only used it as a currency with Europeans , but among themselves it was gift giving. Things have always been traded with external groups. But this is different from markets users by a society to distribute goods. Wampum didn't use shells as currency except with Europeans who later introduced the idea. Also native Americans had societies and government that rivalled European societies. Example the mound builders along the Mississippi. The 'primitive' tribes are survivors of greater failed states which developed currencies. They lived the way they did to prevent the horrors of 'civilization' from happening again.

by mempko 9y ago

Got any good literature on this because I haven't found any supporting what you said. Code of Hammurabi didn't standardize an existing practice in my understanding.

dredmorbius 9y ago

The persistence in the use of Roman currency throughout Europe after the fall of Rome, the use of various currencies in pre-Columbian America, including the continued use of same by post-Columbian Americans, as well as other commodity monies: beaver pelts, cowhides, etc. These were frequently (though not exclusively) used in frontier regions, where the notion of a government regulating trade was all but absent, or between tribes with whom there was no single overarching regulatory body or legal code. Wampum is the source of "clams" as a synonym for money. https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wampum https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wampum http://factcards.califa.org/mli/tannery.html http://factcards.califa.org/mli/tannery.html The use of cowhides as money is also discussed in Richard Henry Dana's Two Years Before the Mast, a travellogue/history of early California in the 1830s. (Also mentioned at the URL above). http://www.worldcat.org/title/two-years-before-the-mast-a-personal-narrative-of-life-at-sea/oclc/944310002 http://www.worldcat.org/title/two-years-before-the-mast-a-pe... The code of Hammurabi: "Nearly one-half of the code deals with matters of contract, establishing, for example, the wages to be paid to an ox driver or a surgeon." https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Code_of_Hammurabi https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Code_of_Hammurabi Citing: http://www.commonlaw.com/home/legal-history-and-philosophy/code-of-hammurabi http://www.commonlaw.com/home/legal-history-and-philosophy/c... William Stanley Jevons wrote at length on money in the 1880s, and discusses early forms of currency, including several mentioned above: https://archive.org/stream/moneyandmechani01jevogoog#page/n43/mode/2up https://archive.org/stream/moneyandmechani01jevogoog#page/n4... I'll leave you free to conduct further research on your own.

mempko 9y ago
Nothing here disagrees with what I said. Example, Wampum only used it as a currency with Europeans , but among themselves it was gift giving. Things have always been traded with external groups. But this is different from markets users by a society to distribute goods. Wampum didn't use shells as currency except with Europeans who later introduced the idea. Also native Americans had societies and government that rivalled European societies. Example the mound builders along the Mississippi. The 'primitive' tribes are survivors of greater failed states which developed currencies. They lived the way they did to prevent the horrors of 'civilization' from happening again.