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Same here. I am a long time mutt user, but recently switched to gnus. Have you considered gnus instead of mu4e? Gnus is notoriously hard to set up, but I found

by nextos 9y ago

Same here. I am a long time mutt user, but recently switched to gnus. Have you considered gnus instead of mu4e? Gnus is notoriously hard to set up, but I found it has some remarkable features.

pyre 9y ago
> Gnus is notoriously hard to set up, but I found it has some remarkable features. Maybe things have changed now, but several years ago I wanted to setup Gnus, and asked for help on IRC (#emacs IIRC) because there weren't many good resources online. The response was "if you need to ask for help, then Gnus isn't for you."
- gkya 9y ago
  Well if you need to ask basic things that means you haven't read the manual, which can easily get you going with a relatively fancy setup. People naturally don't like explaining things that are already explained in a manual that's a C-h I away, hyperlinked and friendly. Emacs is one of the few projects that have good docs, and probably the best among them wrt the accessibility and ease of use of the manual. And still some people hate on Info, probably because they don't read/write documentation at all...
- deong 9y ago
  Honestly, that's probably true. Not in some elitist, "if you have to ask, you're not smart enough" kind of way, but in a "if you have to ask, then you're the kind of person for whom figuring out how to set up an esoteric email program isn't fun, and you're not going to like it much here" kind of way. Gnus is fairly painful to set up. I did write something up several years ago about getting it going the way I wanted (http://www.cataclysmicmutation.com/2010/11/multiple-gmail-accounts-in-gnus/ http://www.cataclysmicmutation.com/2010/11/multiple-gmail-ac...). I haven't used Gnus for a few years now, having first gone to mu4e and now due to corporate fun, Microsoft Outlook, so that document may or may not be currently useful.
gkya 9y ago
Not OP but the best email client in Emacs is RMAIL. So dead simple that you can teach it to your grandpa in a couple hours. I use Gnus because it does nntp thus helping me keep my inbox clean while still being able to follow many mailing lists. Also, many times people don't CC you when responding on lists so if you don't gmane+nntp, many times you don't get the responses without subscribing. I wonder what weird programs these use.
preek 9y ago
I did look into Gnus and saw some amazing features there. However, mu4e is pretty straight forward and has a strong search engine included which means that I can use my setup on both Linux and the Mac. As I understand, I would need to set up a local mail server for Gnus if I wanted reasonably fast search. Having multiple (and sometimes changing) mail accounts that I would need to configure on multiple OSs kept me from doing that. So to me, mu4e is easier, though Gnus might be simpler in the true sense of the word. Not saying that Gnus doesn't have merit, though. It's a fascinating piece of engineering. And when I get older (already old^^), and only have one business running in parallel and no more need for the Mac, I'll probably switch(;

by nextos 9y ago

Same here. I am a long time mutt user, but recently switched to gnus. Have you considered gnus instead of mu4e? Gnus is notoriously hard to set up, but I found it has some remarkable features.

pyre 9y ago

> Gnus is notoriously hard to set up, but I found it has some remarkable features. Maybe things have changed now, but several years ago I wanted to setup Gnus, and asked for help on IRC (#emacs IIRC) because there weren't many good resources online. The response was "if you need to ask for help, then Gnus isn't for you."

gkya 9y ago
Well if you need to ask basic things that means you haven't read the manual, which can easily get you going with a relatively fancy setup. People naturally don't like explaining things that are already explained in a manual that's a C-h I away, hyperlinked and friendly. Emacs is one of the few projects that have good docs, and probably the best among them wrt the accessibility and ease of use of the manual. And still some people hate on Info, probably because they don't read/write documentation at all...
deong 9y ago
Honestly, that's probably true. Not in some elitist, "if you have to ask, you're not smart enough" kind of way, but in a "if you have to ask, then you're the kind of person for whom figuring out how to set up an esoteric email program isn't fun, and you're not going to like it much here" kind of way. Gnus is fairly painful to set up. I did write something up several years ago about getting it going the way I wanted (http://www.cataclysmicmutation.com/2010/11/multiple-gmail-accounts-in-gnus/ http://www.cataclysmicmutation.com/2010/11/multiple-gmail-ac...). I haven't used Gnus for a few years now, having first gone to mu4e and now due to corporate fun, Microsoft Outlook, so that document may or may not be currently useful.

gkya 9y ago

Not OP but the best email client in Emacs is RMAIL. So dead simple that you can teach it to your grandpa in a couple hours. I use Gnus because it does nntp thus helping me keep my inbox clean while still being able to follow many mailing lists. Also, many times people don't CC you when responding on lists so if you don't gmane+nntp, many times you don't get the responses without subscribing. I wonder what weird programs these use.

preek 9y ago

I did look into Gnus and saw some amazing features there. However, mu4e is pretty straight forward and has a strong search engine included which means that I can use my setup on both Linux and the Mac. As I understand, I would need to set up a local mail server for Gnus if I wanted reasonably fast search. Having multiple (and sometimes changing) mail accounts that I would need to configure on multiple OSs kept me from doing that. So to me, mu4e is easier, though Gnus might be simpler in the true sense of the word. Not saying that Gnus doesn't have merit, though. It's a fascinating piece of engineering. And when I get older (already old^^), and only have one business running in parallel and no more need for the Mac, I'll probably switch(;