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Sounds like they never were two separate entities to begin with or never parted location. Which is spooky too, in a different way.

berdon 9y ago
Too build on this thought - is it possible that these quantum properties aren't affected by locality? Which is obviously true given the explanation above... I guess I'm asking if there are other intuitions that can be made if locality is explicitly considered unrelated.
lucozade 9y ago
When I first started to be interested in this area, it occurred to me that it might be something like a 'stretchy' spacetime i.e. the particles are actually locally connected but appear unconnected if you use a static spacetime as a reference as we tend to. I guess something analogous to the idea that someone moving close to c experiences time different from someone in a slow moving reference frame. Unfortunately, I have neither the experience nor ability to progress that thought much further so, if someone wants to go off and get a Nobel from it, feel free...
felipemnoa 9y ago
>>Sounds like they never were two separate entities to begin with or never parted location. Which is spooky too, in a different way. Sounds interesting. I wouldn't be surprised if it turns out that these two particles are really just a single particle in a different dimension that we don't know it exists yet.
lawpoop 9y ago
Experimentally, when they entangle photons, they just pick two random photons. If two random photons used in an experiment weren't ever really separate entities to being with, even before the experiment ever started, then one should probably conclude that /all/ photons are not really separate entities. Otherwise, every quantum experiment we've ever done has just /happened/ to pick two photons that were actually one entity, unlike most other photons.
dragonwriter 9y ago
> Sounds like they never were two separate entities to begin with “Separate entities” may just be an artifact of intelligences trying to divide sense data about the universe into chunks they are capable of processing.

berdon 9y ago

Too build on this thought - is it possible that these quantum properties aren't affected by locality? Which is obviously true given the explanation above... I guess I'm asking if there are other intuitions that can be made if locality is explicitly considered unrelated.

lucozade 9y ago

When I first started to be interested in this area, it occurred to me that it might be something like a 'stretchy' spacetime i.e. the particles are actually locally connected but appear unconnected if you use a static spacetime as a reference as we tend to. I guess something analogous to the idea that someone moving close to c experiences time different from someone in a slow moving reference frame. Unfortunately, I have neither the experience nor ability to progress that thought much further so, if someone wants to go off and get a Nobel from it, feel free...

felipemnoa 9y ago

>>Sounds like they never were two separate entities to begin with or never parted location. Which is spooky too, in a different way. Sounds interesting. I wouldn't be surprised if it turns out that these two particles are really just a single particle in a different dimension that we don't know it exists yet.

lawpoop 9y ago

Experimentally, when they entangle photons, they just pick two random photons. If two random photons used in an experiment weren't ever really separate entities to being with, even before the experiment ever started, then one should probably conclude that /all/ photons are not really separate entities. Otherwise, every quantum experiment we've ever done has just /happened/ to pick two photons that were actually one entity, unlike most other photons.

dragonwriter 9y ago

> Sounds like they never were two separate entities to begin with “Separate entities” may just be an artifact of intelligences trying to divide sense data about the universe into chunks they are capable of processing.