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> AMD has always played 2nd fiddle to Intel and it is hard to shake that perception. I don't know where you got that perception. Perhaps you're a kid fresh ou

> AMD has always played 2nd fiddle to Intel and it is hard to shake that perception. I don't know where you got that perception. Perhaps you're a kid fresh out of highschool and are oblivious to AMD's history, but AMD's Athlon line outperformed Intel's offering of the time by a wide margin, namely their Pentium II, Pentium III, Pentium IV and Pentium D lines. IIRC, Intel only started to become competitive with AMD with the introduction of their Core 2 line.

dom0 9y ago
While that's true, Intel had better sales even in those times due to their aggressive marketing and business practices. IIRC AMD peaked back then at shipping 40 % of all units.
nodesocket 9y ago
In fact I am not an oblivious "kid fresh out of highschool"... Also, I think you are confusing performance with business success and sales. AMD may have had better performing CPUs in the past, but that has not mattered thus far. $INTC market cap 165 billion. $AMD market cap 10 billion.
- redtuesday 9y ago
  Then you are probably aware that it has not mattered because of Intels shady tactics. [0][1][2][3] etc. [0] https://www.wired.com/2009/12/ftc-sues-intel-for-anti-competitive-practices/ https://www.wired.com/2009/12/ftc-sues-intel-for-anti-compet... [1] http://www.silicon.co.uk/workspace/dell-pays-65million-to-settle-intel-bribe-probe-8577 http://www.silicon.co.uk/workspace/dell-pays-65million-to-se... [2] http://techreport.com/news/8547/does-intel-compiler-cripple-amd-performance http://techreport.com/news/8547/does-intel-compiler-cripple-... [3] http://www.agner.org/optimize/blog/read.php?i=49#49 http://www.agner.org/optimize/blog/read.php?i=49#49
- geezerjay 9y ago
  > Also, I think you are confusing performance with business success and sales. I see your point. I've misinterpreted your comment assuming it was focused on performance instead of market share.

dom0 9y ago

While that's true, Intel had better sales even in those times due to their aggressive marketing and business practices. IIRC AMD peaked back then at shipping 40 % of all units.

nodesocket 9y ago

In fact I am not an oblivious "kid fresh out of highschool"... Also, I think you are confusing performance with business success and sales. AMD may have had better performing CPUs in the past, but that has not mattered thus far. $INTC market cap 165 billion. $AMD market cap 10 billion.

redtuesday 9y ago
Then you are probably aware that it has not mattered because of Intels shady tactics. [0][1][2][3] etc. [0] https://www.wired.com/2009/12/ftc-sues-intel-for-anti-competitive-practices/ https://www.wired.com/2009/12/ftc-sues-intel-for-anti-compet... [1] http://www.silicon.co.uk/workspace/dell-pays-65million-to-settle-intel-bribe-probe-8577 http://www.silicon.co.uk/workspace/dell-pays-65million-to-se... [2] http://techreport.com/news/8547/does-intel-compiler-cripple-amd-performance http://techreport.com/news/8547/does-intel-compiler-cripple-... [3] http://www.agner.org/optimize/blog/read.php?i=49#49 http://www.agner.org/optimize/blog/read.php?i=49#49
geezerjay 9y ago
> Also, I think you are confusing performance with business success and sales. I see your point. I've misinterpreted your comment assuming it was focused on performance instead of market share.