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Almost everyone besides Microsoft and Nokia are onboard with Android now. Apple is too late to stop that train. No doubt the first patent volley was a bit of F

by ergo98 16y ago

Almost everyone besides Microsoft and Nokia are onboard with Android now. Apple is too late to stop that train. No doubt the first patent volley was a bit of FUD, primarily to add a sense of risk to Android among second-tier telcos. They failed at that as well. The elephant in the room is Motorola. No one ever goes after Motorola because they have a portfolio a mile deep. Which is humorous, because ultimately Motorola presents far more of a risk to the iPhone than HTC.

rbanffy 16y ago
> Apple is too late to stop that train. All the more reason for them to get violent. In the end, it would be much better if they just competed by making better phones.
- nexneo 16y ago
  In the end, it would be much better if they just competed by making better phones. iPhone 4 is obviously better phone then any phone. So they are doing that too.
  - rbanffy 16y ago
    You know that's disputable. It's a nice phone, but you can't program it yourself, unless you pay for a license, you can't, say, write a complete C64 emulator for it (complete as in "with BASIC in ROM") and you can't tether it to your notebook and you can't operate it without looking at it. So, it's only better if the things you value are the things it does.
- xenophanes 16y ago
  > it would be much better if they just competed by making better phones They're working on that. Steve Jobs was very clear at D8 that he believes in market forces. He'll make the phone he thinks is best, and customers can decide. Mac has gotten less attention this year because Apple is so focussed on making better phones right now (and iPads which share a lot). Patent lawsuits are just a minor detail and have very little to do with consumers. They'll go away when the laws are changed so companies can't benefit from them. In the mean time, just let corporate lawyers worry about them and don't make a big deal out of it. Patent lawsuits absolutely do not mean the company isn't trying its best to compete on quality.
  - rbanffy 16y ago
    > Patent lawsuits absolutely do not mean the company isn't trying its best to compete on quality. It's just that they have a plan B for time time they can no longer compete in quality.

by ergo98 16y ago

rbanffy 16y ago

> Apple is too late to stop that train. All the more reason for them to get violent. In the end, it would be much better if they just competed by making better phones.

nexneo 16y ago
In the end, it would be much better if they just competed by making better phones. iPhone 4 is obviously better phone then any phone. So they are doing that too.
- rbanffy 16y ago
  You know that's disputable. It's a nice phone, but you can't program it yourself, unless you pay for a license, you can't, say, write a complete C64 emulator for it (complete as in "with BASIC in ROM") and you can't tether it to your notebook and you can't operate it without looking at it. So, it's only better if the things you value are the things it does.
xenophanes 16y ago
> it would be much better if they just competed by making better phones They're working on that. Steve Jobs was very clear at D8 that he believes in market forces. He'll make the phone he thinks is best, and customers can decide. Mac has gotten less attention this year because Apple is so focussed on making better phones right now (and iPads which share a lot). Patent lawsuits are just a minor detail and have very little to do with consumers. They'll go away when the laws are changed so companies can't benefit from them. In the mean time, just let corporate lawyers worry about them and don't make a big deal out of it. Patent lawsuits absolutely do not mean the company isn't trying its best to compete on quality.
- rbanffy 16y ago
  > Patent lawsuits absolutely do not mean the company isn't trying its best to compete on quality. It's just that they have a plan B for time time they can no longer compete in quality.