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If this ever happens to IT, I think I'd rather go work in fast food and write code on the side. I'm passionate about the work but not passionate about being wo
by netmau5 16y ago
If this ever happens to IT, I think I'd rather go work in fast food and write code on the side. I'm passionate about the work but not passionate about being worked to death.
I guess some may argue it has happened in some tech circles (startups: at least you usually give us a reason to work hard), but it's never been the norm anywhere I've been employeed.
- j_baker 16y agoConsider yourself lucky. These kinds of employers do exist in the software world. Generally speaking, they may even be correct to think that way (if you twist your logic a bit). Poor to mediocre programmers are very easy to find, and will usually be happy to get a job even if it's underpaid. This creates an environment where you just hire tons of these kinds of programmers that are underpaid and overworked. This can actually even get the job done, albeit not very well.
- gaius 16y agoThe entire IT outsourcing industry is built on this principle.
- mkramlich 16y agoI've seen that a lot with offshore dev shops: "We charge rates 1/4 what an American would take. Oh and you'll need 4 of our developers plus a manager to oversee them!" (scratches head)
- mcknz 16y agoUnless you own the company or are a partner, never imagine you're anything other than work for hire. The worst part is if you're a good soldier and do your (unpaid) OT, there's no guarantee you'll see any kind of reward. Employers who mandate 40+ weeks are ususally the kind who are looking to screw their employees any way they can. It is, however, a perfect sign that you need to be looking for a new job immediately.
- faboo 16y agoI would loath to work for a place where I were just "work for hire". Case in point: I was laid off at the last place I worked. My direct manager explained the situation personally, apologized profusely. And then acted as a reference for my next job. Sure, I lost my job, but I wasn't just dropped like a used tool. Employees can (and should) be people too.
- jpdbaugh 16y agoGranted I am only a student but I made a similar move by quitting my internship and an Office Space like software company and finding a part time job and doing freelance work on the side. I couldn't be happier.