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While I understand the sentiment... it DOES matter what gender they identify as. Uber's culture issues deal with sexism and harassment towards Women. You need

by dbnoch 9y ago

While I understand the sentiment... it DOES matter what gender they identify as. Uber's culture issues deal with sexism and harassment towards Women. You need a diverse group for the board and adding white males will not fix their issue.

nawre 9y ago
>You need a diverse group for the board and adding white males will not fix their issue. It was of paramount importance to mention skin colour here. I don't understand so-called progressives like you. Do you understand that just because you have a spectrum of skin colours, or genders, does not mean you have actual diversity. That socio-economic backgrounds weights a lot more than this, and that you can have a board of 100% {colour}+{gender} with very eclectic and innovative thinking. Taking a step back, there's always a common denominator you will be able to find between the members of an entity to proclaim that "there is no diversity because all those members share {common denominator}. This cult you dedicate to diversity is absurd. More than that, it is marketing (saving the appearances) posing a social justice. I hope the day "white males", whom you so very much enjoy denouncing as the root of all evil, becomes tired of this scapegoating never comes.
- pgodzin 9y ago
  When it comes to board seats there's only one socio-economic background that matters.
initstick 9y ago
So how many ways do you cut the diversity pie? You've now introduced skin color on top of gender. You've also removed the slice that represents "white" (whatever that means) males. Is it your stance that the pie now only represents females? What about other groups of people, how about we slice it into socioeconomic pieces, age, hair color, weight, etc. The point is, your vision of diversity is just anti-white-male. You'll be satisfied until you find too many representatives of whatever arbitrary label you come up with next.
- viraptor 9y ago
  It's more about breaking up a monoculture. You can't introduce a representation of every possible division of humankind. But that's an unrealistic extreme, just like having no representation is an extreme. At some point, working in a diverse environment you just start thinking about others more than before. Random example I've seen many times, but feel free to extrapolate to other positions/issues: If you have a group of native British developers of a web app, there's a good chance that any non-latin input will be either mishandled or rejected. Not because they hate other languages, but simply because that's not a problem they run into, or think about. Add one (for example) Greek dev, and the team will be quickly made aware of and learn about the locales and encoding issues. This will help the accessibility for all cultures, not just British and Greek. Exposure to enough people different than you makes you think about others more. Even if you don't work with every possible token representation of the difference.

by dbnoch 9y ago

nawre 9y ago

>You need a diverse group for the board and adding white males will not fix their issue. It was of paramount importance to mention skin colour here. I don't understand so-called progressives like you. Do you understand that just because you have a spectrum of skin colours, or genders, does not mean you have actual diversity. That socio-economic backgrounds weights a lot more than this, and that you can have a board of 100% {colour}+{gender} with very eclectic and innovative thinking. Taking a step back, there's always a common denominator you will be able to find between the members of an entity to proclaim that "there is no diversity because all those members share {common denominator}. This cult you dedicate to diversity is absurd. More than that, it is marketing (saving the appearances) posing a social justice. I hope the day "white males", whom you so very much enjoy denouncing as the root of all evil, becomes tired of this scapegoating never comes.

pgodzin 9y ago
When it comes to board seats there's only one socio-economic background that matters.

initstick 9y ago

So how many ways do you cut the diversity pie? You've now introduced skin color on top of gender. You've also removed the slice that represents "white" (whatever that means) males. Is it your stance that the pie now only represents females? What about other groups of people, how about we slice it into socioeconomic pieces, age, hair color, weight, etc. The point is, your vision of diversity is just anti-white-male. You'll be satisfied until you find too many representatives of whatever arbitrary label you come up with next.

viraptor 9y ago
It's more about breaking up a monoculture. You can't introduce a representation of every possible division of humankind. But that's an unrealistic extreme, just like having no representation is an extreme. At some point, working in a diverse environment you just start thinking about others more than before. Random example I've seen many times, but feel free to extrapolate to other positions/issues: If you have a group of native British developers of a web app, there's a good chance that any non-latin input will be either mishandled or rejected. Not because they hate other languages, but simply because that's not a problem they run into, or think about. Add one (for example) Greek dev, and the team will be quickly made aware of and learn about the locales and encoding issues. This will help the accessibility for all cultures, not just British and Greek. Exposure to enough people different than you makes you think about others more. Even if you don't work with every possible token representation of the difference.