> Like many in this debate, you seem to think that preventing housing construction prevents population change. Not at all. That's a claim you've invented entir

> Like many in this debate, you seem to think that preventing housing construction prevents population change. Not at all. That's a claim you've invented entirely on your own, not something I said. -- My claim is that YIMBYism is often an attempt to replicate the housing problems seen in places like Berkley, not an attempt to fix them. YIMBYism is often an attempt to inflate property just like NIMBYism is. If 1,000 people are slowly dying of thirst in the desert, and PepsiCo offers to build a Pepsi distribution plant in your desert, some people will say "no" and some will say "yes", and neither will be addressing the water shortage problem because Pepsi isn't water. That's essentially how housing works today. No one builds housing for residents, which is the problem. If you oppose the construction of buildings that are not housing for residents (like say, luxury condos), you get slandered with a "NIMBY" label, despite being pro-housing, because the construction makes the existing problem worse (the act of constructing that luxury condo will inflate all nearby property values too, displacing more people than the new building itself will hold)