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I especially like: "Uber should consider moving the catered dinner it offers to a time when this benefit can be utilized by a broader group of employees, inclu
by cozzyd 9y ago
I especially like:
"Uber should consider moving the catered dinner it offers to a time when this benefit can be utilized by a broader group of employees, including employees who have spouses or families waiting for them at home, and that signals an earlier end to the work day."
Note to Linux users: this PDF looks terrible without msttcorefonts installed. I guess MS Word neglects to embed fonts? Also, as someone who is not used to seeing documents generated by MS Word, I'm surprised at how bad the typography is in general (although maybe this due to user error...for example it looks like hyphenation might be disabled.)
- jfoutz 9y agoFont rights are ridiculously complicated. Word probably plays it safe and never embeds, because it's so easy to break a copyright.
- hsivonen 9y agoMS fonts have the embedding permission bit set, IIRC.
- gsnedders 9y agoIf msttcorefonts solves it, then it'll just be relying on the fact that historically the PDF format guaranteed access to 14 basic fonts. The guarantee was that Helvetica, Courier, Times and a few others were always available, or metric-equivalent alternatives were provided, and almost any OS today meets that requirement.
- cozzyd 9y ago[cozzyd@cosmogenic]$ pdffonts The-Holder-Report-on-Uber.pdf name type encoding emb sub uni object ID ------------------------------------ ----------------- ---------------- --- --- --- --------- TimesNewRomanPSMT TrueType WinAnsi no no no 272 0 Georgia TrueType WinAnsi no no no 274 0 Georgia-Bold TrueType WinAnsi no no no 276 0 Georgia-Italic TrueType WinAnsi no no no 278 0 TimesNewRomanPSMT TrueType WinAnsi no no no 48 0 Georgia-Bold TrueType WinAnsi no no no 49 0 Georgia TrueType WinAnsi no no no 47 0 Arial-BoldMT TrueType WinAnsi no no no 46 0 Georgia-Italic TrueType WinAnsi no no no 53 0
- randycupertino 9y agoWhat time is the dinner served?
- tmh79 9y ago8:15
- djtriptych 9y agowow! It was 6:30 iirc @ Google, which I already thought was just a ploy to keep employees there later. Breakfast ended at I believe 9:30.
- Tyr42 9y agoI think it's 8:30 to 10 at my office.
- uiri 9y agoDepends on the Google cafe. A few started dinner at 6:00. I think most started at 6:30 but I wouldn't be surprised if a couple didn't start until as late as 7. Breakfast ended at 10 but often it didn't actually close until food ran out. I think some had late breakfast going until 11.
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- nostrademons 9y agoCharlie's would close the doors, hard stop, at 10:00. I remember having to be let out by the back route, through the kitchen, a couple times because I was still in line for food when the doors closed.
- djtriptych 9y agoThis was Google NYC btw.
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- BadassFractal 9y agoIsn't the whole point of catered dinner to give people an incentive to work longer hours and have them be taken care of if they're staying at work pretty late? It's not a free meal, it's an incentive to work into the night. It's optional, you can go home if you want. What's the issue? Some people make the tradeoff to spend their life at work, others make the tradeoff to have a family and go spend time with their kids. This gets pretty philosophical, but should we be reducing the freedom of choice and mandating what the correct lifestyle should be for people? When I visited for dinner one time there were barely any people there taking advantage of it, and the food was actually quite good, so it anecdotally didn't even feel like a systemic issue of people "feeling the pressure to stay at work until 9pm".
- xigency 9y ago> What's the issue? The issue is sexual harassment.
- BadassFractal 9y agoWe're talking about the dinners here, you're derailing.
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- xigency 9y agoI think you're missing the focus. Obviously, catering dinners for employees at 8:15 PM has created an environment that encourages sexual harassment, otherwise this would never have been included in an investigative report. An example, which isn't given in the report, is a male employee taking a female employee to a catered dinner after work hours and making advances. Regardless of how a company drains the life out of its employees with overtime, if they create 'perks' that married people can also participate in, or a larger bunch, there is less risk of this happening. The advice about dinner catering is in the context of reducing sexual harassment in the workplace and has nothing to do with anything else.
- amaks 9y agoYou can click on the "original PDF" link that opens: https://assets.documentcloud.org/documents/3863782/The-Holder-Report-on-Uber.pdf https://assets.documentcloud.org/documents/3863782/The-Holde... It looks much better on Linux.
- cozzyd 9y agoOnly if you have the correct (non-embedded) fonts :)
- jostmey 9y agoAs a family man, I couldn't agree more with this statement! But if these are the sorts of recommendations in the report, it is a pile of trash. The whole point of the report is to identify and reduce misconduct. This is just irrelevant filler
- dragonwriter 9y ago> The whole point of the report is to identify and reduce misconduct. No, that's not what Covington was hired by the board to give recommendations on, per the explicit description of the task they were given in the Introduction to the document here.
- ViViDboarder 9y agoIt was about ways to create an inclusive environment. This was one of many recommendations to do that.
- rhino369 9y agoIf they move dinner earlier, the IRS may start taxing employees based on the value provided. Right now, these meals aren't taxable because they are for the convience of the employee. Moving them earlier show they are a really just a fringe benefit.
- xyzzy_plugh 9y agoI don't really follow what you are suggesting. What would suddenly make them taxable? And, the IRS would tax employees because their employer pays for dinner? As in, it qualifies as income, somehow?
- weeks 9y agoMy former employer reimbursed our lunch as taxable income for this reason.
- slavik81 9y agoIf your employer gives you goods and services, that may qualify as a taxable benefit. It is basically income. The point being so that the government still gets its share even if the company pays its employees in free stuff instead of money. Why that would change based on time of day, I don't know, but tax rules are complicated around this sort of stuff.