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being burgled in the middle of the night or when they don't expect you to be home is certainly one scenario. But some people break into your house to hurt you.

being burgled in the middle of the night or when they don't expect you to be home is certainly one scenario. But some people break into your house to hurt you. There is no magic insurance policy that can un-rape my wife. So if some mother fucker comes in my house in the middle of the night, I'm not going to confront him, but you can bet your ass he's going to get a face full of lead the moment he heads up my stairs. As far as the "age of the country"... I'm calling BS. Unless your country was formed within the last generation, the matter is irrelevant how long people have been living in a certain territory. And if you want to get technical, the US Constitution is the oldest, surviving charter of government in existence. I resent the fact that Europeans have the gall to suggest that we're the immature ones when it comes to government.

dfsegoat 9y ago
Did not know this about the US Constitution - that is good stuff! Ref: http://www.politifact.com/virginia/statements/2014/sep/22/bob-goodlatte/goodlatte-says-us-has-oldest-working-national-cons/ http://www.politifact.com/virginia/statements/2014/sep/22/bo...
kjlaaskssss 9y ago
Amen. It's not worth arguing with them. They use "age of a country" to talk down to Americans, but Americans broke off of them to start our own country. They'll never understand true freedom, and considering their land is under siege its not surprise the level of doublethink they have to do to still agree with their backwards way of life.
- louithethrid 9y ago
  You know, we had them all- the rebellions, the true freedom (usually lived out in one big feast after some other people have been robbed and murdered). And we have them around, all those high hopes, and faile dreams, castle on this rock, castle on that rock, robber barons who decided they where worthy to take arms. Peasants, who where decided for to bear arms when it was time for slaugther (war). I detest every fearsome second a cop has to live in America, every time he walks up to a car or a flats door. To be honest, in such a country, i can very well understand somebody who wants to return home in the evening- and thus shoots first.
- KozmoNau7 9y ago
  > They'll never understand true freedom That's cute, as if you've ever had actual freedom in the US.
vkou 9y ago
Do you have an insurance policy that will unshoot someone you didn't intend to shoot? Because odds are that if you're intending to use your gun for home defense, you are more likely to kill a friend or family member, then you are a robber.
- jboggan 9y ago
  Citation needed from a primary source.
  - dfsegoat 9y ago
    Don't worry he won't find it. Publications pertaining to firearms from a public health and safety standpoint are my bread and butter: I am unaware of any single piece of literature out there that makes this claim. In fact the CDC report commissioned by Obama after Sandy Hook showed that there is in fact a protective effect (obviously) from firearms possession. Sources: [1] - http://www.cnsnews.com/news/article/cdc-study-use-firearms-self-defense-important-crime-deterrent http://www.cnsnews.com/news/article/cdc-study-use-firearms-s... [2] - https://www.nap.edu/catalog/18319/priorities-for-research-to-reduce-the-threat-of-firearm-related-violence https://www.nap.edu/catalog/18319/priorities-for-research-to...
    - maxerickson 9y ago
      Could you go to https://www.nap.edu/read/18319/chapter/1 https://www.nap.edu/read/18319/chapter/1 and deep link the section you are referencing? It's a long report and sounds like an interesting finding.
      - dfsegoat 9y ago
        No problem. See below link to proper page, section: "Impact of Having a Firearm at Home" https://www.nap.edu/read/18319/chapter/3#40 https://www.nap.edu/read/18319/chapter/3#40
        9y ago
dragonwriter 9y ago
> And if you want to get technical, the US Constitution is the oldest, surviving charter of government in existence. No, even if that was relevant, if you want to get technical that of the Commonwealth of Massachusetts is older, whether you date from writing or adoption. > I resent the fact that Europeans have the gall to suggest that we're the immature ones when it comes to government. We are, and those of us who are quick to resent it being pointed out do nothing to diminish the truth of that. We're old enough that the (second, actually) system set up when we founded the country is dated, and young enough that we still imagine that our founders' innovations are somehow the end of history so we don't even consider dealing with it. The latter is immaturity and arrogance.
- refurb 9y ago
  Or, you know, it could be that different people want different things?

dfsegoat 9y ago

Did not know this about the US Constitution - that is good stuff! Ref: http://www.politifact.com/virginia/statements/2014/sep/22/bob-goodlatte/goodlatte-says-us-has-oldest-working-national-cons/ http://www.politifact.com/virginia/statements/2014/sep/22/bo...

kjlaaskssss 9y ago

Amen. It's not worth arguing with them. They use "age of a country" to talk down to Americans, but Americans broke off of them to start our own country. They'll never understand true freedom, and considering their land is under siege its not surprise the level of doublethink they have to do to still agree with their backwards way of life.

louithethrid 9y ago
You know, we had them all- the rebellions, the true freedom (usually lived out in one big feast after some other people have been robbed and murdered). And we have them around, all those high hopes, and faile dreams, castle on this rock, castle on that rock, robber barons who decided they where worthy to take arms. Peasants, who where decided for to bear arms when it was time for slaugther (war). I detest every fearsome second a cop has to live in America, every time he walks up to a car or a flats door. To be honest, in such a country, i can very well understand somebody who wants to return home in the evening- and thus shoots first.
KozmoNau7 9y ago
> They'll never understand true freedom That's cute, as if you've ever had actual freedom in the US.

vkou 9y ago

Do you have an insurance policy that will unshoot someone you didn't intend to shoot? Because odds are that if you're intending to use your gun for home defense, you are more likely to kill a friend or family member, then you are a robber.

jboggan 9y ago
Citation needed from a primary source.
- dfsegoat 9y ago
  Don't worry he won't find it. Publications pertaining to firearms from a public health and safety standpoint are my bread and butter: I am unaware of any single piece of literature out there that makes this claim. In fact the CDC report commissioned by Obama after Sandy Hook showed that there is in fact a protective effect (obviously) from firearms possession. Sources: [1] - http://www.cnsnews.com/news/article/cdc-study-use-firearms-self-defense-important-crime-deterrent http://www.cnsnews.com/news/article/cdc-study-use-firearms-s... [2] - https://www.nap.edu/catalog/18319/priorities-for-research-to-reduce-the-threat-of-firearm-related-violence https://www.nap.edu/catalog/18319/priorities-for-research-to...
  - maxerickson 9y ago
    Could you go to https://www.nap.edu/read/18319/chapter/1 https://www.nap.edu/read/18319/chapter/1 and deep link the section you are referencing? It's a long report and sounds like an interesting finding.
    - dfsegoat 9y ago
      No problem. See below link to proper page, section: "Impact of Having a Firearm at Home" https://www.nap.edu/read/18319/chapter/3#40 https://www.nap.edu/read/18319/chapter/3#40
      - 9y ago

dragonwriter 9y ago

> And if you want to get technical, the US Constitution is the oldest, surviving charter of government in existence. No, even if that was relevant, if you want to get technical that of the Commonwealth of Massachusetts is older, whether you date from writing or adoption. > I resent the fact that Europeans have the gall to suggest that we're the immature ones when it comes to government. We are, and those of us who are quick to resent it being pointed out do nothing to diminish the truth of that. We're old enough that the (second, actually) system set up when we founded the country is dated, and young enough that we still imagine that our founders' innovations are somehow the end of history so we don't even consider dealing with it. The latter is immaturity and arrogance.

refurb 9y ago
Or, you know, it could be that different people want different things?