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Before they put their product to sleep, they really ought to have done what Pebble ultimately did - one last update to decouple from the cloud. Bravo. https://

Before they put their product to sleep, they really ought to have done what Pebble ultimately did - one last update to decouple from the cloud. Bravo. https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.getpebble.android.basalt https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.getpebble....

taneq 9y ago
Huh. If Pebble had done that from the start, I'd have stayed a customer of theirs. Still, good on 'em. I choose to believe it was the engineers finally getting a say after being forced to do all of the creepy spyware stuff.
- sillysaurus3 9y ago
  I choose to believe it was the engineers finally getting a say after being forced to do all of the creepy spyware stuff. I don't think engineers are as innocent in that regard as we'd like to believe.
- TeMPOraL 9y ago
  Pebble didn't do "creepy spyware stuff", from what I know. Are there any stories I missed?
  - taneq 9y ago
    It wasn't a big story, more that they: 1) Basically piped everything through their own servers, including a huge amount of personal information, and 2) Had very careful weasel-wording in their privacy policy which gave them carte blanche to store and then sell any data they had about you. It's possible that they didn't track this stuff and were just covering themselves, but I had quite a long email conversation with one of their lawyers about it, and despite me explaining clearly multiple times what my concerns were (data collection, resale of personal info) and them having multiple opportunities to simply say "we don't store your personal data beyond X days and we won't sell it", they never gave any meaningful response to either concern. After that experience I have no choice but to assume the wording in the privacy policy is deliberate and that they weren't operating in good faith (from a privacy standpoint).

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Before they put their product to sleep, they really ought to have done what Pebble ultimately did - one last update to decouple from the cloud. Bravo. https://

by sundvor 9y ago

taneq 9y ago
Huh. If Pebble had done that from the start, I'd have stayed a customer of theirs. Still, good on 'em. I choose to believe it was the engineers finally getting a say after being forced to do all of the creepy spyware stuff.
- sillysaurus3 9y ago
  I choose to believe it was the engineers finally getting a say after being forced to do all of the creepy spyware stuff. I don't think engineers are as innocent in that regard as we'd like to believe.
- TeMPOraL 9y ago
  Pebble didn't do "creepy spyware stuff", from what I know. Are there any stories I missed?
  - taneq 9y ago
    It wasn't a big story, more that they: 1) Basically piped everything through their own servers, including a huge amount of personal information, and 2) Had very careful weasel-wording in their privacy policy which gave them carte blanche to store and then sell any data they had about you. It's possible that they didn't track this stuff and were just covering themselves, but I had quite a long email conversation with one of their lawyers about it, and despite me explaining clearly multiple times what my concerns were (data collection, resale of personal info) and them having multiple opportunities to simply say "we don't store your personal data beyond X days and we won't sell it", they never gave any meaningful response to either concern. After that experience I have no choice but to assume the wording in the privacy policy is deliberate and that they weren't operating in good faith (from a privacy standpoint).