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This is so weird. You don't drink alcohol, so you can't set foot in a bar? They serve non alcoholic drinks (and food too as often as not) you know. If anyone bu
by galdosdi 9y ago
This is so weird. You don't drink alcohol, so you can't set foot in a bar? They serve non alcoholic drinks (and food too as often as not) you know. If anyone but yourself makes you feel weird about not drinking alcohol, the problem is with them, not with bars.
It's literally the most inclusive off site activity. Just about anything else excludes somebody (biking for example)
But a bar or restaurant requires nothing of you but sitting around, and possibly drinking or eating, which all humans do.
Maybe you've had bad experiences at specific venues but don't judge them all by it.
(Also I can tell part of your point has to do with an expectation of doing things outside of work hours, and I don't disagree with your view there. But you could go to the pub with coworkers for lunch too or something, within work hours. I just hate how alcohol has gradually become so demonized lately. Like cars, alcohol is an amoral tool that can be used for good, evil, or trivial purposes)
- Balgair 9y agoHoooooly Cow Dude, have you never talked to an alcoholic? Many of them really truly cannot even step foot in a bar, it really is that bad for them.
- shaklee3 9y agoI would guess that most people he's referring to are not alcoholics. That's my experience, at least.
- Balgair 9y agoYou'd be surprised. ~10% of the US population has "drinking problems" in any given 12 month long period. Finding stats for alcoholism is surprisingly tough, I think because defining it is so difficult, but about 30 million Americans seem to have 'issues' with the booze. Meaning that you can expect to discover ~1/10 of your team members has an 'issue' with using the bar as a meeting place, whether they admit it or not. https://www.livescience.com/51066-alcohol-use-disorders-prevalence-us.html https://www.livescience.com/51066-alcohol-use-disorders-prev...
- notacoward 9y agoNudist camps are good that way too. All humans have bodies, right? So it doesn't exclude anybody. Sure, some people might have body-image or religious issues, but they should just keep those out of the (extended) workplace, right? All you have to do is sit around. (In case anyone missed it, that was meant as satire)