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You'd have to be producing something valuable, but then again, that's one of the economic models behind seasteading is production of high value goods which are

You'd have to be producing something valuable, but then again, that's one of the economic models behind seasteading is production of high value goods which are forbidden to produce on land. ie: drugs, dangerous materials, etc.

chrisseaton 9y ago
Is the idea that you're in international water so you can do what you want? What stops a navy coming and confiscating your equipment then? They stop drug smugglers and pirates in international waters all the time. And you'll be static!
- fnordfnordfnord 9y ago
  >Is the idea that you're in international water so you can do what you want? Pretty much as I understand it, but I don't think they're under the illusion that they don't have to maintain some sort of relationship with land-based nations. >What stops a navy coming and confiscating your equipment then? Nothing? Some form of diplomacy? >They stop drug smugglers and pirates in international waters all the time. And you'll be static! They never stop them all. I don't think I will be static. I'll be on the beach.
- gozur88 9y ago
  Yeah, that's the flaw in the drug production plan. They think they can get around it by declaring themselves an independent nation, but nobody's going to recognize them as such. If they're not an independent nation they're just a vessel on the ocean subject to maritime law. Governments will tolerate seasteading if it's the functional equivalent of parking a big houseboat somewhere. They won't tolerate modern day Tortugas, though.
- random28345 9y ago
  The idea is that you can simultaneously be protected by the laws of nation-states that you like (protection from pirates), and are free to break the laws of nation-states that you don't like (taxes, drug laws, etc.) It's an example of Libertarian paradise syndrome; where you want all the comforts of modern civilization with none of the obligations.
  - whatshisface 9y ago
    I think the Anarcho-Capitalist paradise you're talking about would involve personal contracts with "security" companies to keep the pirates away - although it has never been explained to me what keeps the security company from becoming the pirates. The Libertarian version involves paying for a military, I think.

chrisseaton 9y ago

Is the idea that you're in international water so you can do what you want? What stops a navy coming and confiscating your equipment then? They stop drug smugglers and pirates in international waters all the time. And you'll be static!

fnordfnordfnord 9y ago
>Is the idea that you're in international water so you can do what you want? Pretty much as I understand it, but I don't think they're under the illusion that they don't have to maintain some sort of relationship with land-based nations. >What stops a navy coming and confiscating your equipment then? Nothing? Some form of diplomacy? >They stop drug smugglers and pirates in international waters all the time. And you'll be static! They never stop them all. I don't think I will be static. I'll be on the beach.
gozur88 9y ago
Yeah, that's the flaw in the drug production plan. They think they can get around it by declaring themselves an independent nation, but nobody's going to recognize them as such. If they're not an independent nation they're just a vessel on the ocean subject to maritime law. Governments will tolerate seasteading if it's the functional equivalent of parking a big houseboat somewhere. They won't tolerate modern day Tortugas, though.
random28345 9y ago
The idea is that you can simultaneously be protected by the laws of nation-states that you like (protection from pirates), and are free to break the laws of nation-states that you don't like (taxes, drug laws, etc.) It's an example of Libertarian paradise syndrome; where you want all the comforts of modern civilization with none of the obligations.
- whatshisface 9y ago
  I think the Anarcho-Capitalist paradise you're talking about would involve personal contracts with "security" companies to keep the pirates away - although it has never been explained to me what keeps the security company from becoming the pirates. The Libertarian version involves paying for a military, I think.