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FMLA leave is unpaid leave; anything beyond that is an employer's choice, and/or on the employee to be paying their short-term disability premiums, and claim it

by rosser 9y ago

FMLA leave is unpaid leave; anything beyond that is an employer's choice, and/or on the employee to be paying their short-term disability premiums, and claim it. It also covers taking leave to deal with the employee's own illness. How are you "subsidizing" that? EDIT: phrasing.

jdavis703 9y ago
Someone generally has to put in the extra work caused by an absence.
- rosser 9y ago
  I am reminded of nothing so much as Christopher Hitchens' quip about Libertarianism: "I have always found it quaint and rather touching that there is a movement in the US that thinks Americans are not yet selfish enough." If someone is taking FMLA, the overwhelming likelihood is that they or someone they love is dying (or the opposite: they have a brand-new kid). You're worried about working a little bit harder. Some perspective might be warranted.
  - jdavis703 9y ago
    As someone who has been asked to chip in many times to make up for the new kid situation (which at least for men it's a choice to take time off), I do feel "worried" about having to work harder. It's not like you get paid overtime these days. Now I (and others on the team) have had to work overtime for someone who was in the hospital for months through no fault of their own. I felt no grudge about having to put in extra work for free there.
    - toomuchtodo 9y ago
      Work your forty hours and let the company deal with hiring a temp/contractor if they need to.
  - oh_sigh 9y ago
    If the idea was you could take care of anyone you loved, then I'd agree. Why does it have to be nuclear family members? Not everyone has nuclear family members, or defines their family as the father/mother/brother/sister they grew up with. In my mind, I see this as highly similar to hospitals of the past(and current) not letting members of same-sex couples visit their dying partner, because they aren't direct family or legally married.

by rosser 9y ago

jdavis703 9y ago

Someone generally has to put in the extra work caused by an absence.

rosser 9y ago
I am reminded of nothing so much as Christopher Hitchens' quip about Libertarianism: "I have always found it quaint and rather touching that there is a movement in the US that thinks Americans are not yet selfish enough." If someone is taking FMLA, the overwhelming likelihood is that they or someone they love is dying (or the opposite: they have a brand-new kid). You're worried about working a little bit harder. Some perspective might be warranted.
- jdavis703 9y ago
  As someone who has been asked to chip in many times to make up for the new kid situation (which at least for men it's a choice to take time off), I do feel "worried" about having to work harder. It's not like you get paid overtime these days. Now I (and others on the team) have had to work overtime for someone who was in the hospital for months through no fault of their own. I felt no grudge about having to put in extra work for free there.
  - toomuchtodo 9y ago
    Work your forty hours and let the company deal with hiring a temp/contractor if they need to.
- oh_sigh 9y ago
  If the idea was you could take care of anyone you loved, then I'd agree. Why does it have to be nuclear family members? Not everyone has nuclear family members, or defines their family as the father/mother/brother/sister they grew up with. In my mind, I see this as highly similar to hospitals of the past(and current) not letting members of same-sex couples visit their dying partner, because they aren't direct family or legally married.