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Gonna need a source on that.

zzalpha 9y ago
I somehow doubt you'll get one. A quick Google search suggests they exist, but they're hardly a large portion of the overall bodybuilding community.
- serg_chernata 9y ago
  Oh I know, I just wanted him to answer that. :)
  - coldtea 9y ago
    Why though? He didn't say that "Given that ALL/MOST top body builders are vegans", but that "Given that top body builders are vegans". And indeed there are some. Which points that there's no necessary connection between being vegan and losing muscle.
    - Mz 9y ago
      It would be seriously cool, though, if anyone here could leave a link as a citation to any article, tweet, FB page, whatevs that shows even one top body builder who is vegan as back up for the claim.
      - coldtea 9y ago
        Because Google is too difficult? (note to self: cut down snark)... http://www.greatveganathletes.com/bodybuilders http://www.greatveganathletes.com/bodybuilders http://pulptastic.com/beef-up-without-beef/ http://pulptastic.com/beef-up-without-beef/
        Mz 9y ago
        Google is a thing? (note to self: quit trying to crack jokes on HN) ;-)
    - kbutler 9y ago
      He also didn't say "Given that SOME top body builders are vegans". Top body builders eat meat. Top body builders do not eat meat. The implication is "The top body builders", but yes, there's wiggle room for when someone challenges the statement.
gxs 9y ago
Seriously, no need to be so sensationalist. All comment had to say is some top body builders are vegan. Even some notable NFL players are/have been vegan. Even then, they go out of their way to get enough protein - I think the person you replied to was trying to go for shock value but it was a pretty bad comment.
tdist 9y ago
Here are some [1]. These are however not selected to be 'top' athletes, as far as I know. I imagine that diet is irrelevant for athletic training, as long as it fulfills certain macro-nutrient requisites. Further, I image vegan athletes are only faced with the increased difficulty of finding and preparing quality sufficient food, compared to others with normative diets, due to lack of demand and meat centered cultures. Finding an equivalent vegan alternative to chocolate pudding at <500g, 350kcal, 50g protein> for $2.5 [2] seems like a challenge. I'm sure that if they plan their diet, they can meet the same targets - whereas normative diets don't require you to plan anything really. You can just eat 2 of [2] and a chicken a day, and you're done (concerning only protein). But then again, there are protein powders which balances it out, if we don't take price into account. All in all, I think diet choices (assuming any choice to be a most healthy variant of chosen diet) mainly impacts long term health, and not short term goals such as muscle gains. [1] http://www.greatveganathletes.com/strength http://www.greatveganathletes.com/strength [2] http://www.njie.se/produkt/propud-protein-pudding-chocolate/?lang=en http://www.njie.se/produkt/propud-protein-pudding-chocolate/...

I somehow doubt you'll get one. A quick Google search suggests they exist, but they're hardly a large portion of the overall bodybuilding community.

serg_chernata 9y ago
Oh I know, I just wanted him to answer that. :)
- coldtea 9y ago
  Why though? He didn't say that "Given that ALL/MOST top body builders are vegans", but that "Given that top body builders are vegans". And indeed there are some. Which points that there's no necessary connection between being vegan and losing muscle.
  - Mz 9y ago
    It would be seriously cool, though, if anyone here could leave a link as a citation to any article, tweet, FB page, whatevs that shows even one top body builder who is vegan as back up for the claim.
    - coldtea 9y ago
      Because Google is too difficult? (note to self: cut down snark)... http://www.greatveganathletes.com/bodybuilders http://www.greatveganathletes.com/bodybuilders http://pulptastic.com/beef-up-without-beef/ http://pulptastic.com/beef-up-without-beef/
      - Mz 9y ago
        Google is a thing? (note to self: quit trying to crack jokes on HN) ;-)
  - kbutler 9y ago
    He also didn't say "Given that SOME top body builders are vegans". Top body builders eat meat. Top body builders do not eat meat. The implication is "The top body builders", but yes, there's wiggle room for when someone challenges the statement.

gxs 9y ago

Seriously, no need to be so sensationalist. All comment had to say is some top body builders are vegan. Even some notable NFL players are/have been vegan. Even then, they go out of their way to get enough protein - I think the person you replied to was trying to go for shock value but it was a pretty bad comment.

tdist 9y ago

Here are some [1]. These are however not selected to be 'top' athletes, as far as I know. I imagine that diet is irrelevant for athletic training, as long as it fulfills certain macro-nutrient requisites. Further, I image vegan athletes are only faced with the increased difficulty of finding and preparing quality sufficient food, compared to others with normative diets, due to lack of demand and meat centered cultures. Finding an equivalent vegan alternative to chocolate pudding at <500g, 350kcal, 50g protein> for $2.5 [2] seems like a challenge. I'm sure that if they plan their diet, they can meet the same targets - whereas normative diets don't require you to plan anything really. You can just eat 2 of [2] and a chicken a day, and you're done (concerning only protein). But then again, there are protein powders which balances it out, if we don't take price into account. All in all, I think diet choices (assuming any choice to be a most healthy variant of chosen diet) mainly impacts long term health, and not short term goals such as muscle gains. [1] http://www.greatveganathletes.com/strength http://www.greatveganathletes.com/strength [2] http://www.njie.se/produkt/propud-protein-pudding-chocolate/?lang=en http://www.njie.se/produkt/propud-protein-pudding-chocolate/...