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This isn't new, being needlessly rude has always destroyed you personally and professionally. I know a guy who lost his job for calling a coworker "Sugar Tits."

This isn't new, being needlessly rude has always destroyed you personally and professionally. I know a guy who lost his job for calling a coworker "Sugar Tits." I would not describe his boss as "vocal, vicious and vindictive" for firing him. If you are polite to others and "respect the wishes of people who want to be referred to in a specific way" you will have no issues. If you're being a dick you can be expected to be called out for being a dick, we live in a polite society, this is how these things work.

rhapsodic 9y ago
>If you're being a dick you can be expected to be called out for being a dick, we live in a polite society, this is how these things work. True enough. And I happen to think that people who are trying to establish that referring to men as "male" and women as "female" are violating the rules of polite society are giant, throbbing dicks. So I'm going to call them out.
- creepydata 9y ago
  And I can say "people who take offensive to being called 'Sugar Tits' by their coworkers are giant, throbbing dicks" but that is completely irrelevant because we live in a society where that's not appropriate behavior. There can be consequences for violating social norms, this isn't a difficult concept.
  - rhapsodic 9y ago
    > There can be consequences for violating social norms, this isn't a difficult concept. I've already agreed with that. And referring to men as "male" and woman as "female" is not violating any social norms, at least not in the United States.
    - creepydata 9y ago
      First you claimed "until relatively recently, the terms "gender" and "sex" meant essentially the same thing and could be used interchangeably" which is objectively incorrect and you've ignored that I pointed it out. You also claimed that gender is some sort of scientific concept, which is also objectively incorrect. If someone asks you to call them by "him" and you call them "her" instead, you are just being unnecessarily mean. This is not a hard concept to understand, be polite to others if you don't want to face problems in your personal life and career. Refer to people as they wish to be referred as. Asking you to do that is not "vocal, vicious and vindictive... [people] ...enforc[ing] their own cultural taboos" and quite frankly I find it disturbing you think is it.

rhapsodic 9y ago

>If you're being a dick you can be expected to be called out for being a dick, we live in a polite society, this is how these things work. True enough. And I happen to think that people who are trying to establish that referring to men as "male" and women as "female" are violating the rules of polite society are giant, throbbing dicks. So I'm going to call them out.

creepydata 9y ago
And I can say "people who take offensive to being called 'Sugar Tits' by their coworkers are giant, throbbing dicks" but that is completely irrelevant because we live in a society where that's not appropriate behavior. There can be consequences for violating social norms, this isn't a difficult concept.
- rhapsodic 9y ago
  > There can be consequences for violating social norms, this isn't a difficult concept. I've already agreed with that. And referring to men as "male" and woman as "female" is not violating any social norms, at least not in the United States.
  - creepydata 9y ago
    First you claimed "until relatively recently, the terms "gender" and "sex" meant essentially the same thing and could be used interchangeably" which is objectively incorrect and you've ignored that I pointed it out. You also claimed that gender is some sort of scientific concept, which is also objectively incorrect. If someone asks you to call them by "him" and you call them "her" instead, you are just being unnecessarily mean. This is not a hard concept to understand, be polite to others if you don't want to face problems in your personal life and career. Refer to people as they wish to be referred as. Asking you to do that is not "vocal, vicious and vindictive... [people] ...enforc[ing] their own cultural taboos" and quite frankly I find it disturbing you think is it.