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As I understand it, medical expenses are the fastest route from "stable" as OP defines to the street. If you blew your millions on a yacht only to crumble under

As I understand it, medical expenses are the fastest route from "stable" as OP defines to the street. If you blew your millions on a yacht only to crumble under the load of the debt that would be one thing, but for the majority of people who lose everything they have, it was due to one disease or another, traffic accident, some other kind of ailment that they played little to no role in getting. That's not right.

miguelrochefort 9y ago
> due to one disease or another, traffic accident, some other kind of ailment that they played little to no role in getting. How do you feel about kids born in Africa?
- Cthulhu_ 9y ago
  > implying all African kids live in shit conditions Can we please not generalize Africa? It's the biggest continent of the world, not a giant 3rd world country plagued by famine and poverty. Some countries are, but if you mean those, please name them specifically. (I dislike phrases like "asians" and "europeans" too, much as Americans should dislike the moniker "American")
  - thatwebdude 9y ago
    I always liked the ring of "United Statesian".
- FussyZeus 9y ago
  I'm not certain if you're trying to imply that people in the US shouldn't complain because they have it better than "kids born in Africa" or if you're implying that healthcare shouldn't be a basic human right for everyone, in the US or not. If it's the former: Suffering isn't a contest, just because you aren't the MOST impoverished person on the face of the planet does not make your problems less real, nor does it make you less deserving of help when you do need it. If it's the latter, I'm all for getting those kids healthcare (and food) and whatever else they might need. That's a damn sight better use of my tax dollars than numerous Government programs currently sucking up actual trillions of dollars here in the States.
  - miguelrochefort 9y ago
    You concluded your comment with "That's not right", implying that no one should ever be in that situation. Considering that a lot of people are in that situation, I was wondering if you were advocating taking money from the rich to give it to the poor. Personally, I don't believe in free healthcare. I accept that people who are unlucky or demonstrate poor judgement will suffer and die. However, I also believe that the market should be deregulated so that more affordable options become available.
    - jrmg 9y ago
      I accept that people who are unlucky or demonstrate poor judgement will suffer and die. Oof. That’s quite an admission. I thank you for stating it though. I think our politics would be in a better place if people would admit things like this more. I suspect that a lot of Republicans have the opinion that the poor don’t _deserve_ to be taken care of by society, because they believe that they are poor because of their own inaction. But it’s impossible to debate this - and change minds either way - because we don’t admit that point of view in discussion.

miguelrochefort 9y ago

> due to one disease or another, traffic accident, some other kind of ailment that they played little to no role in getting. How do you feel about kids born in Africa?

Cthulhu_ 9y ago
> implying all African kids live in shit conditions Can we please not generalize Africa? It's the biggest continent of the world, not a giant 3rd world country plagued by famine and poverty. Some countries are, but if you mean those, please name them specifically. (I dislike phrases like "asians" and "europeans" too, much as Americans should dislike the moniker "American")
- thatwebdude 9y ago
  I always liked the ring of "United Statesian".
FussyZeus 9y ago
I'm not certain if you're trying to imply that people in the US shouldn't complain because they have it better than "kids born in Africa" or if you're implying that healthcare shouldn't be a basic human right for everyone, in the US or not. If it's the former: Suffering isn't a contest, just because you aren't the MOST impoverished person on the face of the planet does not make your problems less real, nor does it make you less deserving of help when you do need it. If it's the latter, I'm all for getting those kids healthcare (and food) and whatever else they might need. That's a damn sight better use of my tax dollars than numerous Government programs currently sucking up actual trillions of dollars here in the States.
- miguelrochefort 9y ago
  You concluded your comment with "That's not right", implying that no one should ever be in that situation. Considering that a lot of people are in that situation, I was wondering if you were advocating taking money from the rich to give it to the poor. Personally, I don't believe in free healthcare. I accept that people who are unlucky or demonstrate poor judgement will suffer and die. However, I also believe that the market should be deregulated so that more affordable options become available.
  - jrmg 9y ago
    I accept that people who are unlucky or demonstrate poor judgement will suffer and die. Oof. That’s quite an admission. I thank you for stating it though. I think our politics would be in a better place if people would admit things like this more. I suspect that a lot of Republicans have the opinion that the poor don’t _deserve_ to be taken care of by society, because they believe that they are poor because of their own inaction. But it’s impossible to debate this - and change minds either way - because we don’t admit that point of view in discussion.