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I'll take a non-native looking app that works (every Electron app I've tried on macOS) over XQuartz-based garbage that hangs forever at startup, as the current

I'll take a non-native looking app that works (every Electron app I've tried on macOS) over XQuartz-based garbage that hangs forever at startup, as the current "stable" Inkscape release does for me.

coldtea 9y ago
Maybe, but not for a graphics editor. Slack hogs RAM and burns battery like crazy, and it's a bloody chat app -- as simple as it gets. Now imagine an Electron version of Inscape with complex vector editing, gradients and co on screen...
- TeMPOraL 9y ago
  It's not even very hard to imagine. Just go to any web-based diagram drawing service (there's plenty of that), and look how sluggish and crappy it feels even when performing simplest and most basic tasks. Now multiply that crappiness 10x for the complexity of vector drawings (100x if you're doing vector art), and additional 10x for the complexity of the effects vector formats can handle - and you'll get a ballpark of how Inkscape would feel if it was an Electron app.
  - stupidcar 9y ago
    I've used https://app.moqups.com/ https://app.moqups.com/ for diagramming/wireframing for a few years, and it doesn't feel sluggish to me at all. Feel pretty snappy, in fact.
- stupidcar 9y ago
  We don't have to imagine. Someone has made a clone of Sketch for the web: https://app.designer.io/ https://app.designer.io/. There's an app to download as well. It doesn't match the performance of a native equivalent, but doesn't seem unreasonably slow or bloated either.
  - yjftsjthsd-h 9y ago
    Can we tell without feature parity? I were writing such a webapp, I'd skip features that were slow.
    - stupidcar 9y ago
      The OP suggested that no web/Electron based editor could have "complex vector editing, gradients and co on screen". This has nothing to do with achieving 100% feature parity, so yes, we can tell. Anything else is moving the goalposts. 100% feature parity is a meaningless test in any case. Sketch doesn't have 100% parity with Inkscape, which doesn't have 100% parity with Affinity Designer, which doesn't have 100% parity with Illustrator, etc.
  - jarek-foksa 9y ago
    There are also two other Electron-based vector graphics editors on the app store: - Boxy SVG - https://itunes.apple.com/us/app/boxy-svg/id611658502 https://itunes.apple.com/us/app/boxy-svg/id611658502 - Vectr - https://itunes.apple.com/us/app/vectr/id1204645754 https://itunes.apple.com/us/app/vectr/id1204645754

I'll take a non-native looking app that works (every Electron app I've tried on macOS) over XQuartz-based garbage that hangs forever at startup, as the current "stable" Inkscape release does for me.

coldtea 9y ago

Maybe, but not for a graphics editor. Slack hogs RAM and burns battery like crazy, and it's a bloody chat app -- as simple as it gets. Now imagine an Electron version of Inscape with complex vector editing, gradients and co on screen...

TeMPOraL 9y ago
It's not even very hard to imagine. Just go to any web-based diagram drawing service (there's plenty of that), and look how sluggish and crappy it feels even when performing simplest and most basic tasks. Now multiply that crappiness 10x for the complexity of vector drawings (100x if you're doing vector art), and additional 10x for the complexity of the effects vector formats can handle - and you'll get a ballpark of how Inkscape would feel if it was an Electron app.
- stupidcar 9y ago
  I've used https://app.moqups.com/ https://app.moqups.com/ for diagramming/wireframing for a few years, and it doesn't feel sluggish to me at all. Feel pretty snappy, in fact.
stupidcar 9y ago
We don't have to imagine. Someone has made a clone of Sketch for the web: https://app.designer.io/ https://app.designer.io/. There's an app to download as well. It doesn't match the performance of a native equivalent, but doesn't seem unreasonably slow or bloated either.
- yjftsjthsd-h 9y ago
  Can we tell without feature parity? I were writing such a webapp, I'd skip features that were slow.
  - stupidcar 9y ago
    The OP suggested that no web/Electron based editor could have "complex vector editing, gradients and co on screen". This has nothing to do with achieving 100% feature parity, so yes, we can tell. Anything else is moving the goalposts. 100% feature parity is a meaningless test in any case. Sketch doesn't have 100% parity with Inkscape, which doesn't have 100% parity with Affinity Designer, which doesn't have 100% parity with Illustrator, etc.
- jarek-foksa 9y ago
  There are also two other Electron-based vector graphics editors on the app store: - Boxy SVG - https://itunes.apple.com/us/app/boxy-svg/id611658502 https://itunes.apple.com/us/app/boxy-svg/id611658502 - Vectr - https://itunes.apple.com/us/app/vectr/id1204645754 https://itunes.apple.com/us/app/vectr/id1204645754