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I don't think it is hate, more that people have learned to not put all their eggs in the same basket. Ask any Firebase user what they feel about this. Also, th
by pawadu 9y ago
I don't think it is hate, more that people have learned to not put all their eggs in the same basket. Ask any Firebase user what they feel about this.
Also, the more players we have the less proprietary web interfaces for things like issues and PR will dominate.
- _pmf_ 9y ago> I don't think it is hate, more that people have learned to not put all their eggs in the same basket. I'm just waiting for GitHub to be bought up by MS and turn into Sourceforge 2.0.
- pawadu 9y agoJokes aside, you actually make a good point. github is loosing money like crazy while gitlab and bitbucket are actually profitable.
- detaro 9y agosource on that claim? If I remember right, the last numbers I published (from some bloomberg article last year) showed them spending a lot, but profitable.
- BinaryIdiot 9y agoNot parent but here you go: https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2016-12-15/github-is-building-a-coder-s-paradise-it-s-not-coming-cheap https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2016-12-15/github-is... They're not expecting to be profitable right now but their loses have risen quite a bit.
- detaro 9y agoThx, that was the article I was thinking about, and clearly remembered wrong.
- BinaryIdiot 9y agoGitHub is losing money but that doesn't mean GitLab and BitBucket are profitable. BitBucket is part of a larger organization so it really doesn't matter if it loses money. As for GitLab I can't find anything but by 2019 they're expecting SaaS to be the majority of the way they make money (which is identical to GitHub) so I'm not sure why you expect the incumbent to fail and the underdog to succeed with identical business models. Sure it's possible but I don't get it. Don't forget as more of these OSS projects take advantage of GitLab's free repositories the more money GitLab will lose.
- BinaryIdiot 9y ago> I don't think it is hate, more that people have learned to not put all their eggs in the same basket. But git isn't putting all your eggs in one basket. It's a distributed version control system. GitHub is one way to access your source but it doesn't have to be the only one. That's purely a choice made by folks. If you want to put your eggs into many baskets then great! But that doesn't prevent you from using GitHub at all.
- qb45 9y agoFor a dumb git host GH is passable, the problem is with their additional features which many projects use. If/when GH goes the way of the dodo they will be at the mercy of 3rd parties' ability to scrap and import this stuff.
- johannes1234321 9y ago> If you want to put your eggs into many baskets then great! But that doesn't prevent you from using GitHub at all. In theory, yes. In practice you quickly end up having long discussions in "pull requests" and therelike and all references using github.com URLs. If (let's hope that doesn't happen) Github one day does what Sourceforge did and injects ads and malware you're in trouble as everybody still points to their domain.
- bzbarsky 9y agoYes, if you use Github but don't use PRs you're not putting all your eggs in one basket. As soon as you start using PRs, you almost certainly have part of your project's version control history (the reasons for changes) in the PR discussions, and now if Github ever shuts down you have dataloss.
- skrebbel 9y ago> Ask any Firebase user what they feel about this. I'm curious what you mean by this. In a world of discontinued acquihired services and breaking changes, firebase has just kept working across major organizational and product changes. For example you can still use the old client libraries and URLs from before google bought them and it just works. REST urls, admin UI urls, everything redirects perfectly.
- KaoruAoiShiho 9y agoFirebase increased prices three times in one year.