6 ms·

Makes absolute sense for Fuyao to move where their customers are. I also applaud the US growth and job creation they are creating in the process.

jacquesm 9y ago
Those jobs were historically there to begin with, then tooling + process + jobs were shipped overseas because that was cheaper, the resulting trade surplus made it possible for the Chinese to ship the factory back to the United States. The big question then is can they remain profitable in the long run if they do things the US way, and if they can why couldn't the same plant be owned and operated by Americans?
- mjevans 9y ago
  As an American, my observation is that we're allergic to logic and long term planning/investment.
  - cylinder 9y ago
    Ask a bunch of American investors to help with your glass plant in Ohio. They will suggest you call them back when you're ready to build the "Airbnb for Glass Factories."
- nickpsecurity 9y ago
  "and if they can why couldn't the same plant be owned and operated by Americans?" You already know the answer to that. It's why they shipped the jobs overseas in the first place. In many cases, the workers even keep voting for the kinds of people that do it. I especially found it amusing that Trump was appealing as a capitalist to workers whose jobs were lost due to capitalism like this. Many of these areas are self-defeating. Not all but many.
  - toomuchtodo 9y ago
    Workers voted for Trump because he was the only candidate who offered to help them, regardless if he was lying. I wouldn't be amused; it's a canary in a coal mine (no pun intended).
    - nickpsecurity 9y ago
      This is also true. They were foolish to vote for the kind of person who left them jobless. They thought it wise to vote for the only person promising them something. The latter happened because they're too superficial: most districts vote out the honest, well-performing folks early. That superficial "he-said-she-said" stuff is what they need to stop doing the most.
      - deleted 9y ago
        [deleted]
      - toomuchtodo 9y ago
        > They were foolish to vote for the kind of person who left them jobless. Clinton's policies would've left them just as jobless (by way of her supporting the TPP, finishing off those crippled by NAFTA, which was a project of Clinton's husband during his presidential stint). When in doubt, vote for the person who says they'll burn everything down, which appears to be on schedule.
        nickpsecurity 9y ago
        A great, Democrat example of: "most districts vote out the honest, well-performing folks early." Leave us to Trump or Hillary by the end of it. Russian roulette has better odds of success.
        toomuchtodo 9y ago
        I'd like to point out that the DNC argued in a court room that it's totally within their right to pick their candidate while smoking cigars in a back room, votes be damned; nobody voted for that. https://medium.com/theyoungturks/dnc-we-can-legally-choose-candidate-over-cigars-in-back-room-e3026730e252 https://medium.com/theyoungturks/dnc-we-can-legally-choose-c... We could have voluntarily decided that, ‘Look, we’re gonna go into back rooms like they used to and smoke cigars and pick the candidate that way,’” Bruce Spiva, lawyer for the DNC, said during a court hearing in Carol Wilding, et al. v. DNC Services Corp
  - Sunset 9y ago
    Ah yes, all of those protectionist politicians who want to levy import taxes. Do you even listen to yourself?
    - nickpsecurity 9y ago
      Have they passed one of those with a majority Democrat or Republican Congress? Or have they just "wanted" to levy import taxes? The actual legislation seems to favor globalization over protectionism. I think TPP showed more their true colors where they tried to expand globalization but including very, specific provisions to protect the profits of very, specific companies or groups of them here. Some of those companies were themselves helping do the deal. They didn't care about American jobs: just the profits of big companies that donated to them.
    - dang 9y ago
      We've banned this account for repeatedly violating the HN guidelines. Would you please not create accounts to do that with?

jacquesm 9y ago

Those jobs were historically there to begin with, then tooling + process + jobs were shipped overseas because that was cheaper, the resulting trade surplus made it possible for the Chinese to ship the factory back to the United States. The big question then is can they remain profitable in the long run if they do things the US way, and if they can why couldn't the same plant be owned and operated by Americans?

mjevans 9y ago
As an American, my observation is that we're allergic to logic and long term planning/investment.
- cylinder 9y ago
  Ask a bunch of American investors to help with your glass plant in Ohio. They will suggest you call them back when you're ready to build the "Airbnb for Glass Factories."
nickpsecurity 9y ago
"and if they can why couldn't the same plant be owned and operated by Americans?" You already know the answer to that. It's why they shipped the jobs overseas in the first place. In many cases, the workers even keep voting for the kinds of people that do it. I especially found it amusing that Trump was appealing as a capitalist to workers whose jobs were lost due to capitalism like this. Many of these areas are self-defeating. Not all but many.
- toomuchtodo 9y ago
  Workers voted for Trump because he was the only candidate who offered to help them, regardless if he was lying. I wouldn't be amused; it's a canary in a coal mine (no pun intended).
  - nickpsecurity 9y ago
    This is also true. They were foolish to vote for the kind of person who left them jobless. They thought it wise to vote for the only person promising them something. The latter happened because they're too superficial: most districts vote out the honest, well-performing folks early. That superficial "he-said-she-said" stuff is what they need to stop doing the most.
    - deleted 9y ago
      [deleted]
    - toomuchtodo 9y ago
      > They were foolish to vote for the kind of person who left them jobless. Clinton's policies would've left them just as jobless (by way of her supporting the TPP, finishing off those crippled by NAFTA, which was a project of Clinton's husband during his presidential stint). When in doubt, vote for the person who says they'll burn everything down, which appears to be on schedule.
      - nickpsecurity 9y ago
        A great, Democrat example of: "most districts vote out the honest, well-performing folks early." Leave us to Trump or Hillary by the end of it. Russian roulette has better odds of success.
        toomuchtodo 9y ago
        I'd like to point out that the DNC argued in a court room that it's totally within their right to pick their candidate while smoking cigars in a back room, votes be damned; nobody voted for that. https://medium.com/theyoungturks/dnc-we-can-legally-choose-candidate-over-cigars-in-back-room-e3026730e252 https://medium.com/theyoungturks/dnc-we-can-legally-choose-c... We could have voluntarily decided that, ‘Look, we’re gonna go into back rooms like they used to and smoke cigars and pick the candidate that way,’” Bruce Spiva, lawyer for the DNC, said during a court hearing in Carol Wilding, et al. v. DNC Services Corp
- Sunset 9y ago
  Ah yes, all of those protectionist politicians who want to levy import taxes. Do you even listen to yourself?
  - nickpsecurity 9y ago
    Have they passed one of those with a majority Democrat or Republican Congress? Or have they just "wanted" to levy import taxes? The actual legislation seems to favor globalization over protectionism. I think TPP showed more their true colors where they tried to expand globalization but including very, specific provisions to protect the profits of very, specific companies or groups of them here. Some of those companies were themselves helping do the deal. They didn't care about American jobs: just the profits of big companies that donated to them.
  - dang 9y ago
    We've banned this account for repeatedly violating the HN guidelines. Would you please not create accounts to do that with?