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My 3G (w/ the 4 GM) routinely freezes to the point where it just stops responding to input. I'll probably attempt to downgrade it to 3 soon. Which, I honestly d

by mbreese 16y ago

My 3G (w/ the 4 GM) routinely freezes to the point where it just stops responding to input. I'll probably attempt to downgrade it to 3 soon. Which, I honestly don't mind. I mean, I would rather Apple not even support the 3G with iOS 4 rather than have to deal with this user experience. It's not like it can even deal with background tasks anyway...

xsmasher 16y ago
Same problem here; iPod frequently doesn't respond to headphone controls, and apps slow to a crawl and become unusable ( >1 minute to respond to clicks). Do you test/debug apps on your phone? Is it possible that this is triggered by using debugging tools? It seems like everyone else is not seeing what we're seeing.
sabat 16y ago
You can downgrade? Because I'd sure like to, until I get around to ordering the iPhone 4. There are guides or official ways of downgrading?
- spicyj 16y ago
  Yeah, just download your firmware from this page, then option-click Restore in iTunes and select the IPSW. http://www.felixbruns.de/iPod/firmware/ http://www.felixbruns.de/iPod/firmware/
  - pkulak 16y ago
    Then why do people pay more money for phones that haven't been upgraded? I figured it was because you can't go backwards and the newest versions can't be unlocked.
    - spicyj 16y ago
      The newer 3GS is harder to downgrade and you also can't downgrade the baseband (modem firmware) version, but you should be able to downgrade the actual operating system without any trouble.
    - cmelbye 16y ago
      When you try to install a firmware on your device (whether it's iOS 4.0 or iPhone OS 2.0), Apple signs the firmware using some combination of a unique identifier and other things to make sure you should be able to install it. When they release a new firmware, they typically stop signing the old firmware days or weeks afterwards, meaning you can't downgrade to it anymore. Also, there are checks on the device so even if you do manage to install it, you'll need to run certain commands to get it to boot up the first time.
  - obelix 16y ago
    Trying now, thanks.
  - obelix 16y ago
    Didn't work. Restore failed. Trying to restore to iOS4 now.
    - spicyj 16y ago
      Really? What was the error?
      - obelix 16y ago
        Got it working. I followed the instructions and got stuck with error 1015. I had to do two things. 1. Switch of your iPhone and put it in DFU mode with following instructions - Click the Home + Power On button for 10 seconds exactly - Release the power button and continue to click on Home 2. Restore and it fails with Error 1015. 3. Run iRecovery -s followed by fsboot, following http://www.ihackintosh.com/2009/09/recover-iphone-3gs-from-apple-logo-or-recovery-mode-loop/ http://www.ihackintosh.com/2009/09/recover-iphone-3gs-from-a... I am back with 3.3.1 Thanks a lot guys.
ique 16y ago
Interesting, my 3G had the exact same problems as you (just froze and didn't respond to anything for like minutes at a time) with OS 3. But the problems have gotten a lot less frequent with OS 4 for me.
- 9oliYQjP 16y ago
  I read somewhere that upgrading a 3G from OS 2.x to one of the OS 3.0 betas and then to OS 3.0 final, without doing a full reset somewhere in between would cause this problem. OS 3.0 was sluggish as hell for me until OS 4.0 beta came out and I did a full reset. I'd get random pauses and freezes just like others here are reporting. After the full reset, the 3G was running smoothly again. I just upgraded to 4.0 final and it is smooth too. A full reset kind of sucks. We're not talking a restore here. Just start from scratch. With the exception of one or two apps though, my data was in the cloud so it was largely painless to get everything back in sync.

by mbreese 16y ago

xsmasher 16y ago

Same problem here; iPod frequently doesn't respond to headphone controls, and apps slow to a crawl and become unusable ( >1 minute to respond to clicks). Do you test/debug apps on your phone? Is it possible that this is triggered by using debugging tools? It seems like everyone else is not seeing what we're seeing.

sabat 16y ago

You can downgrade? Because I'd sure like to, until I get around to ordering the iPhone 4. There are guides or official ways of downgrading?

spicyj 16y ago
Yeah, just download your firmware from this page, then option-click Restore in iTunes and select the IPSW. http://www.felixbruns.de/iPod/firmware/ http://www.felixbruns.de/iPod/firmware/
- pkulak 16y ago
  Then why do people pay more money for phones that haven't been upgraded? I figured it was because you can't go backwards and the newest versions can't be unlocked.
  - spicyj 16y ago
    The newer 3GS is harder to downgrade and you also can't downgrade the baseband (modem firmware) version, but you should be able to downgrade the actual operating system without any trouble.
  - cmelbye 16y ago
    When you try to install a firmware on your device (whether it's iOS 4.0 or iPhone OS 2.0), Apple signs the firmware using some combination of a unique identifier and other things to make sure you should be able to install it. When they release a new firmware, they typically stop signing the old firmware days or weeks afterwards, meaning you can't downgrade to it anymore. Also, there are checks on the device so even if you do manage to install it, you'll need to run certain commands to get it to boot up the first time.
- obelix 16y ago
  Trying now, thanks.
- obelix 16y ago
  Didn't work. Restore failed. Trying to restore to iOS4 now.
  - spicyj 16y ago
    Really? What was the error?
    - obelix 16y ago
      Got it working. I followed the instructions and got stuck with error 1015. I had to do two things. 1. Switch of your iPhone and put it in DFU mode with following instructions - Click the Home + Power On button for 10 seconds exactly - Release the power button and continue to click on Home 2. Restore and it fails with Error 1015. 3. Run iRecovery -s followed by fsboot, following http://www.ihackintosh.com/2009/09/recover-iphone-3gs-from-apple-logo-or-recovery-mode-loop/ http://www.ihackintosh.com/2009/09/recover-iphone-3gs-from-a... I am back with 3.3.1 Thanks a lot guys.

ique 16y ago

Interesting, my 3G had the exact same problems as you (just froze and didn't respond to anything for like minutes at a time) with OS 3. But the problems have gotten a lot less frequent with OS 4 for me.

9oliYQjP 16y ago
I read somewhere that upgrading a 3G from OS 2.x to one of the OS 3.0 betas and then to OS 3.0 final, without doing a full reset somewhere in between would cause this problem. OS 3.0 was sluggish as hell for me until OS 4.0 beta came out and I did a full reset. I'd get random pauses and freezes just like others here are reporting. After the full reset, the 3G was running smoothly again. I just upgraded to 4.0 final and it is smooth too. A full reset kind of sucks. We're not talking a restore here. Just start from scratch. With the exception of one or two apps though, my data was in the cloud so it was largely painless to get everything back in sync.