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Indian Aadhaar biometric IDs 'not mandatory for tax returns yet'

darkhorn 9y ago
The best way for the USA to fight terrorism and crime in the USA is to have biometric IDs with unique USA citizenship ID number. Also everybody must inform its home address to the state.
- happy-go-lucky 9y ago
  How would it be the best way to fight terrorism and other crime? What to do with those not eligible for such an ID?
- mythrwy 9y ago
  That's a good start. Also need a DNA sample from everyone and constant record of movements/conversations. Maybe full 24-7 video feed also if storage gets cheap enough. Constantly uploading biofeedback data maybe also? The government should ideally know when anyone gets excited or angry to prevent possible problems. That way we can finally stop terrorism for good!</s>
- Fej 9y ago
  Basically all American citizens have a unique ID in the form of the SSN (albeit one not meant for that purpose). Most Americans, through a driver's license, inform the state of their home address and provide their face for biometrics. Not sure if sarcastic.
burntrelish1273 9y ago
National IDs run by governments are problematic for a variety of reasons. It would make more sense for one or more global nonprofit(s) with significant privacy, InfoSec and document security talent to offer an opt-in, open-source, voluntary "card" which can be deployed, maintained and improved to verify, nonrepudiate and generate a physical/electronic card for a given individual. This way, corporate interests and govt waste/incompetence can be mostly mitigated. Also useful would be the ability to grant/revoke rights to personal information in a single place and to load authoritative information onto a "card" (nationality, status, health records, etc.), perhaps backed by blockchain technology. Card being a physical token into an API that a consumer must have authorization and authentication to access.
- romaster 9y ago
  The biggest problem is the centralizing of biometric data. That's not only slower but a treasure trove once it is hacked. An Opt-in as you're suggesting would be a positive move - even more so would be a decentralized biometric tokenization approach. Device side biometrics that don't leave the user's device.
awinter-py 9y ago
I think the laconic reply to this is: 'yet'
throwaway66599 9y ago
Not true. The Machiavellian Finance Minister has taken out spots in newspapers saying they are not mandatory for PAN cards - the cards which previously would've become invalid won't be anymore. They remain mandatory for filing returns; instead of linking the PAN card, you now have to mention the number while filing. The loophole continues to be molested. Nothing new here. The supreme court has kept parroting the line ~5-6 times. They have neither the will nor the integrity to keep the executive to its word.

The best way for the USA to fight terrorism and crime in the USA is to have biometric IDs with unique USA citizenship ID number. Also everybody must inform its home address to the state.

happy-go-lucky 9y ago
How would it be the best way to fight terrorism and other crime? What to do with those not eligible for such an ID?
mythrwy 9y ago
That's a good start. Also need a DNA sample from everyone and constant record of movements/conversations. Maybe full 24-7 video feed also if storage gets cheap enough. Constantly uploading biofeedback data maybe also? The government should ideally know when anyone gets excited or angry to prevent possible problems. That way we can finally stop terrorism for good!</s>
Fej 9y ago
Basically all American citizens have a unique ID in the form of the SSN (albeit one not meant for that purpose). Most Americans, through a driver's license, inform the state of their home address and provide their face for biometrics. Not sure if sarcastic.

burntrelish1273 9y ago

National IDs run by governments are problematic for a variety of reasons. It would make more sense for one or more global nonprofit(s) with significant privacy, InfoSec and document security talent to offer an opt-in, open-source, voluntary "card" which can be deployed, maintained and improved to verify, nonrepudiate and generate a physical/electronic card for a given individual. This way, corporate interests and govt waste/incompetence can be mostly mitigated. Also useful would be the ability to grant/revoke rights to personal information in a single place and to load authoritative information onto a "card" (nationality, status, health records, etc.), perhaps backed by blockchain technology. Card being a physical token into an API that a consumer must have authorization and authentication to access.

romaster 9y ago
The biggest problem is the centralizing of biometric data. That's not only slower but a treasure trove once it is hacked. An Opt-in as you're suggesting would be a positive move - even more so would be a decentralized biometric tokenization approach. Device side biometrics that don't leave the user's device.

awinter-py 9y ago

I think the laconic reply to this is: 'yet'

throwaway66599 9y ago

Not true. The Machiavellian Finance Minister has taken out spots in newspapers saying they are not mandatory for PAN cards - the cards which previously would've become invalid won't be anymore. They remain mandatory for filing returns; instead of linking the PAN card, you now have to mention the number while filing. The loophole continues to be molested. Nothing new here. The supreme court has kept parroting the line ~5-6 times. They have neither the will nor the integrity to keep the executive to its word.