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How many times have you complained about 99% of soldiers being male? Let me guess, none. Or 75% of suicides being males? Let me guess, none too. Now, how many t

How many times have you complained about 99% of soldiers being male? Let me guess, none. Or 75% of suicides being males? Let me guess, none too. Now, how many times you have complained about the gender of artificial computer voices like you just did? many times right? Not only you give this kind of inane issues any relevance whatsoever, you give none to any actual form of equality and pretend us to take it seriously.

backpropaganda 9y ago
Whoa slow down there fella, or you're going to run out of red pills.
- notgood 9y ago
  I not once have entered that subreddit; my opinions were formed completely by myself; shocking I know.
crawfordcomeaux 9y ago
None of that is relevant to their point. Would you mind sticking to the topic instead of trying to dismiss them based off your assumptions about them? Unless you know them personally, you likely know nothing about who you're responding to. Maybe take a deep breath and evaluate whether you're here to seek a broader sense of the truth or just want to be right about whatever your cause is?
- qb45 9y ago
  This comment was indeed convoluted, but I wonder if your last sentence wouldn't apply equally well to the top voted comment in this submission and those who upvoted it?
  - crawfordcomeaux 9y ago
    Probably. Most people fighting the gender wars need to sit down, stop talking, and start listening to the other side. MRAs/feminists are people who are in pain and each one's specific pain needs to be heard. I'm not referring to their grievances toward their gender...that's a separate ordeal. Before we can talk about those things productively, the pain bringing them to the table needs to be empathized with by whoever sits opposite them.
dang 9y ago
Please don't take HN threads on this sort of ideological tangent. The original point was at least partly on topic; this is way off in the flames. We detached this subthread from https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=14530866 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=14530866 and marked it off-topic.
- backpropaganda 9y ago
  I don't approve of this decision. If discussion about how AI assistants have female names are on-topic, then so is the rebuttal that "AI assistants having female names is a non-issue". I like you, dang, but I think you added your own ideological bias in making this decision.
  - notgood 9y ago
    Yeah, that's exactly what came to mind as well.
  - dang 9y ago
    I know you guys often see ideological bias in these things, but there's a strong if not irresistible tendency to see that whether it's happening or not [1,2], and people of opposite ideological persuasions accuse us of the same thing. So I dunno. I can't judge my own bias, obviously. What I can tell you is that after dealing with thousands of these, the only thing I consciously care about is what makes the threads tedious and predictable vs. not. That's pretty much the only thing that HN is ultimately about, and I probably have a more fine-tuned sense of it (i.e. of what's predictable) than most people do, just because of the effects of brute quantity on the brain. 1. https://hn.algolia.com/?sort=byDate&prefix&page=0&dateRange=all&type=comment&query=by:dang%20cognitive%20bias https://hn.algolia.com/?sort=byDate&prefix&page=0&dateRange=... 2. https://hn.algolia.com/?sort=byDate&prefix&page=0&dateRange=all&type=comment&query=by:dang%20beholder https://hn.algolia.com/?sort=byDate&prefix&page=0&dateRange=...
    - backpropaganda 9y ago
      You know best, of course. Note that I'm not claiming that HN is too left-/right-wing for me. I think HN is pretty well balanced and centrist. What I'm saying is you might have erred on the side of avoiding controversy. HN could use more controversial comments, whether it comes from the left or the right, especially when the comment is not trolling and is informative.

backpropaganda 9y ago

Whoa slow down there fella, or you're going to run out of red pills.

notgood 9y ago
I not once have entered that subreddit; my opinions were formed completely by myself; shocking I know.

crawfordcomeaux 9y ago

None of that is relevant to their point. Would you mind sticking to the topic instead of trying to dismiss them based off your assumptions about them? Unless you know them personally, you likely know nothing about who you're responding to. Maybe take a deep breath and evaluate whether you're here to seek a broader sense of the truth or just want to be right about whatever your cause is?

qb45 9y ago
This comment was indeed convoluted, but I wonder if your last sentence wouldn't apply equally well to the top voted comment in this submission and those who upvoted it?
- crawfordcomeaux 9y ago
  Probably. Most people fighting the gender wars need to sit down, stop talking, and start listening to the other side. MRAs/feminists are people who are in pain and each one's specific pain needs to be heard. I'm not referring to their grievances toward their gender...that's a separate ordeal. Before we can talk about those things productively, the pain bringing them to the table needs to be empathized with by whoever sits opposite them.

dang 9y ago

Please don't take HN threads on this sort of ideological tangent. The original point was at least partly on topic; this is way off in the flames. We detached this subthread from https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=14530866 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=14530866 and marked it off-topic.

backpropaganda 9y ago
I don't approve of this decision. If discussion about how AI assistants have female names are on-topic, then so is the rebuttal that "AI assistants having female names is a non-issue". I like you, dang, but I think you added your own ideological bias in making this decision.
- notgood 9y ago
  Yeah, that's exactly what came to mind as well.
- dang 9y ago
  I know you guys often see ideological bias in these things, but there's a strong if not irresistible tendency to see that whether it's happening or not [1,2], and people of opposite ideological persuasions accuse us of the same thing. So I dunno. I can't judge my own bias, obviously. What I can tell you is that after dealing with thousands of these, the only thing I consciously care about is what makes the threads tedious and predictable vs. not. That's pretty much the only thing that HN is ultimately about, and I probably have a more fine-tuned sense of it (i.e. of what's predictable) than most people do, just because of the effects of brute quantity on the brain. 1. https://hn.algolia.com/?sort=byDate&prefix&page=0&dateRange=all&type=comment&query=by:dang%20cognitive%20bias https://hn.algolia.com/?sort=byDate&prefix&page=0&dateRange=... 2. https://hn.algolia.com/?sort=byDate&prefix&page=0&dateRange=all&type=comment&query=by:dang%20beholder https://hn.algolia.com/?sort=byDate&prefix&page=0&dateRange=...
  - backpropaganda 9y ago
    You know best, of course. Note that I'm not claiming that HN is too left-/right-wing for me. I think HN is pretty well balanced and centrist. What I'm saying is you might have erred on the side of avoiding controversy. HN could use more controversial comments, whether it comes from the left or the right, especially when the comment is not trolling and is informative.