I don't know people who like verbosity per se. But I can symphatize with people who think that if removal of verbosity introduces other burdens that possibly af

I don't know people who like verbosity per se. But I can symphatize with people who think that if removal of verbosity introduces other burdens that possibly affect the understandability or refactorability of the code, it is not clear-cut if it's worth it. Say, with Scala implicit parameters, you get to remove code from call-site. Does it make the code better? Depends on the case, in my opinion. So I don't get the point to say some people categorically want verbosity. They may prefer explicitness and unsurprising code which may require verbosity. Or perhaps the removal of verbosity requires code that allocates more memory -- in that regard Kotlin seems to be a good citizen. It has ways to make code concise without making the byte code entirely different.