> Individual electrons can move at high speeds (not c) My memory may be off but as I recall the fermi speed in copper is only around 0.5% of c, rather far off.

> Individual electrons can move at high speeds (not c) My memory may be off but as I recall the fermi speed in copper is only around 0.5% of c, rather far off. What does propagate at speeds on the order of c is the EM field, which is what most people are actually talking about when they think of electricity moving down a wire. But, it's still something around ~60% of c in a copper transmission line.